World Cup Frenzy

[bg]

I am not sure why, but this world cup has got everybody excited. I think the England Team have a serious chance with or without Rooney. Obviously it will increase our chances if he can play a part.

Everywhere you go there is red and white flags............which is good and nice to see. We even had an email asking managers to be sympathetic to people who wanted to watch the football, so that people can make up the timejump: also warning of the perils of arriving at work the worse for drink........I have never known anything like it.....

anyway as you can see I am just about ready for the off; so who is first up with the barbie's or am I in the chair??

[LostBoy]

In true English fashion we are all building ourselves up for 'Four more years of hurt'. With regards the World Cup:(

Our best chance ever for silverware is certainly Euro 2008 - which i believe we will wintup: tup:

[bg]

thats it juan, in true british style put the dampners on before a ball is kickedEng: Eng: woohoo:

[tony d]

thats it juan, in true british style put the dampners on before a ball is kickedEng: Eng: woohoo:


In true City C&B style you mean....

So many teams this time have a chance...Lets just get to the 1/4s before we peak too soon ...

But agreed about the St George's flags ...Brill to see long may it last..

[LostBoy]

thats it juan, in true british style put the dampners on before a ball is kickedEng: Eng: woohoo:

Im normally the eternal optimist, I just dont think we really are all that:(

Too many 'big' players who havent played enough this season, along with a management team who all seem concentrated on their next appointmentstdwn:

On the plus side its great experience for our fantastically skilled young squadtup:

[Parrot]

The English have had enough of being told to be ashamed of their proud history by PC geeks & we're now sticking two fingers up at the traitors who run "our" Country;)

"Come on Ingerland"jump:

[Parrot]

Im normally the eternal optimist, I just dont think we really are all that:(

Too many 'big' players who havent played enough this season, along with a management team who all seem concentrated on their next appointmentstdwn:


A bit like Italia 90 eh?:rolleyes:

[Loyalish2]

Sorry bg, but the nearer it gets the more negative I feel, and unless our lads switch on when it starts I fear the worst.

Being realistic, right now I'm thinking we'll be lucky to qualify. After watching the two recent friendlies I have zero confidence in Sven and I don't believe we have any players playing well enough to trouble the top teams, infact on current form I doubt whether we'd trouble most of the mediocre ones either. Therefore, AT THE MOMENT, imho, Paraguay will win the group and Sweden will have to play badly to let us finish second. Then it's either Germany, Poland or Ecuador. Which strangely enough might be easier than the group stages.

Swedens friendly results this year have been very poor, but they did well in qualifying and only conceded four goals.

P W D L Gls Pts
1.Croatia 10 7 3 0 21- 5 24
2.Sweden 10 8 0 2 30- 4 24
3.Bulgaria 10 4 3 3 17-17 15
4.Hungary 10 4 2 4 13-14 14
5.Iceland 10 1 1 8 14-27 04
6.Malta 10 0 3 7 4-32 03

04.09-04 MALTA 0-7 SWEDEN

08.09-04 SWEDEN 0-1 CROATIA

09.10-04 SWEDEN 3-0 HUNGARY

13.10-04 ICELAND 1-4 SWEDEN

26.03-05 BULGARIA 0-3 SWEDEN

04.06-05 SWEDEN 6-0 MALTA

03.09-05 SWEDEN 3-0 BULGARIA

07.09-05 HUNGARY 0-1 SWEDEN

08.10-05 CROATIA 1-0 SWEDEN

12.10-05 SWEDEN 3-1 ICELAND

'Nilling' Hungary and Bulgaria both home and away in competitive games makes interesting reading. They also beat the poorer teams convincingly every time they met. Tell me, how did we go on against Northern Ireland???

Paraguays results weren't bad either, especially against Argentina.

15 Nov 2003 Paraguay 2 v Ecuador 1

09 Oct 2004 Colombia 1 v Paraguay 1

08 Oct 2005 Venezuela 0 v Paraguay 1

31 March 2004 Paraguay 0 v Brazil 0

06 June 2004 Argentina 0 v Paraguay 0

17 Nov 2004 Uruguay 1 v Paraguay 0

30 Mar 2005 Paraguay 2 v Chile 1

08 Jun 2005 Paraguay 4 v Bolivia 1

18 Nov 2003 Chile 0 v Paraguay 1

01 June 2004 Bolivia 2 v Paraguay 1

03 Sep 2005 Paraguay 1 v Argentina 0

12 Oct 2005 Paraguay 0 v Colombia 1

10 Sept 2003 Paraguay 4 v Uruguay 1

06 Sept 2003 Peru 4 v Paraguay 1

05 Sept 2004 Paraguay 1 v Venezuela 0

13 Oct 2006 Paraguay 1 v Peru 1

27 Mar 2005 Ecuador 5 v Paraguay 2

5 Jun 2005 Brazil 1 v Paraguay 0

Apparently their two heavy defeats against Peru and Equador came about when they 'lost the plot'. Let's hope they lose it against England, cos at the moment I reckon it might be our only chance!

COME ON ENGLAND!!! tup:

[ChuckleBantam]

Sorry bg, but the nearer it gets the more negative I feel, and unless our lads switch on when it starts I fear the worst.

Being realistic, right now I'm thinking we'll be lucky to qualify. After watching the two recent friendlies I have zero confidence in Sven and I don't believe we have any players playing well enough to trouble the top teams, infact on current form I doubt whether we'd trouble most of the mediocre ones either. Therefore, AT THE MOMENT, imho, Paraguay will win the group and Sweden will have to play badly to let us finish second. Then it's either Germany, Poland or Ecuador. Which strangely enough might be easier than the group stages.

Swedens friendly results this year have been very poor, but they did well in qualifying and only conceded four goals.

P W D L Gls Pts
1.Croatia 10 7 3 0 21- 5 24
2.Sweden 10 8 0 2 30- 4 24
3.Bulgaria 10 4 3 3 17-17 15
4.Hungary 10 4 2 4 13-14 14
5.Iceland 10 1 1 8 14-27 04
6.Malta 10 0 3 7 4-32 03

04.09-04 MALTA 0-7 SWEDEN

08.09-04 SWEDEN 0-1 CROATIA

09.10-04 SWEDEN 3-0 HUNGARY

13.10-04 ICELAND 1-4 SWEDEN

26.03-05 BULGARIA 0-3 SWEDEN

04.06-05 SWEDEN 6-0 MALTA

03.09-05 SWEDEN 3-0 BULGARIA

07.09-05 HUNGARY 0-1 SWEDEN

08.10-05 CROATIA 1-0 SWEDEN

12.10-05 SWEDEN 3-1 ICELAND

'Nilling' Hungary and Bulgaria both home and away in competitive games makes interesting reading. They also beat the poorer teams convincingly every time they met. Tell me, how did we go on against Northern Ireland???

Paraguays results weren't bad either, especially against Argentina.

15 Nov 2003 Paraguay 2 v Ecuador 1

09 Oct 2004 Colombia 1 v Paraguay 1

08 Oct 2005 Venezuela 0 v Paraguay 1

31 March 2004 Paraguay 0 v Brazil 0

06 June 2004 Argentina 0 v Paraguay 0

17 Nov 2004 Uruguay 1 v Paraguay 0

30 Mar 2005 Paraguay 2 v Chile 1

08 Jun 2005 Paraguay 4 v Bolivia 1

18 Nov 2003 Chile 0 v Paraguay 1

01 June 2004 Bolivia 2 v Paraguay 1

03 Sep 2005 Paraguay 1 v Argentina 0

12 Oct 2005 Paraguay 0 v Colombia 1

10 Sept 2003 Paraguay 4 v Uruguay 1

06 Sept 2003 Peru 4 v Paraguay 1

05 Sept 2004 Paraguay 1 v Venezuela 0

13 Oct 2006 Paraguay 1 v Peru 1

27 Mar 2005 Ecuador 5 v Paraguay 2

5 Jun 2005 Brazil 1 v Paraguay 0

Apparently their two heavy defeats against Peru and Equador came about when they 'lost the plot'. Let's hope they lose it against England, cos at the moment I reckon it might be our only chance!

COME ON ENGLAND!!! tup:

Now don't take this the wrong way, but your Pessemism is something that fills me with optimism.

[king billy]

Fekkin hell Ranger yer miserable cnut.....;)

£20 says we win our group..... *KB holds out cyber hand* Payable at the 1st home game of the season?....

BTW Trinidad and Tobago IMO are more likely to finish above Paraguay....

[baldbantam]

http://www.easyodds.com/compareodds/football/football_matrix.aspx?SetId=10137&GroupId=6&SDT=5

It's entirely possible that I'm reading this wrong, but that would seem to suggest to me that the bookies expect us to qualify relatively easily - if you want to bet on England qualifying you have to put £8 down to win £1 back.

I don't do much, if any, bookie betting so someone better versed than me in it could perhaps confirm that.

[Loyalish2]

You're on, that's one bet I'll enjoy losing. But, seeing as you've mentioned it, I think we should go double or quits on T&T finishing above Paraguay as well.

Loyalish spits on cyber hand and waits...

No worries BB, I'll give KB even money. It's just one of those daft Bantams Bar I told you so take the pish kind of bets. I'll have that many bets going during the WC this will just be a drop in the ocean.

[ChuckleBantam]

Ohhhh Nooooooo!!!

Matt's Optimism is now filling me with Pessimism!! :eek:

[king billy]

You're on, that's one bet I'll enjoy losing. But, seeing as you've mentioned it, I think we should go double or quits on T&T finishing above Paraguay as well.

Loyalish spits on cyber hand and waits...

No worries BB, I'll give KB even money. It's just one of those daft Bantams Bar I told you so take the pish kind of bets. I'll have that many bets going during the WC this will just be a drop in the ocean.

Right so England win the group I get £20? England win the group and T&T finish below Paraguay were quits? If England win the group and T&T finish above Paraguay i win £40? Or if England fail to win the group you get £20? Have i got that right you'll have to spell it out to me?.....i've been having a few beers this evening in the sun....tup: :eek: :D

[Loyalish2]

Almost spot on, but to make it double or quits for both of us you missed off the bit about me winning fourty bar should Paraguay finish above T&T and England not win the group. :eek: jawdrop: :(

As Noel Edmonds would say, deal, or no deal???

[bg]

well for me it is just one of those gut feelings, the fact that we haven't produced our best form is also a good sign...................................

now who remembers me saying that the England Cricket Team would win the ashes? How many took the preverbial out of mejump:

ok I might be wrong.......................but I don't think so:) now hang on to your hats or whatever, get ready for the best world cup the majority of you have seenEng: jump: jump: woohoo:

[king billy]

Almost spot on, but to make it double or quits for both of us you missed off the bit about me winning fourty bar should Paraguay finish above T&T and England not win the group. :eek: jawdrop: :(

As Noel Edmonds would say, deal, or no deal???

Deal mate...tup:

[Rick]

If you want some value on bettng on the group stages your best betting on how many points England will get.

7pts is the favourite at 2/1 and it's a very realistic bet. 0pts is the huge outsider at 300/1.