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Ed
03-19-2006, 09:19 PM
Is Todd really to blame or the fans? after an intresting discussion today with BaldBantam is it really Todd's fault?

LAst season kicked off after we were 10 minutes away from going bust we then built a squad of players with a few weeks togo before the season kicked off.

If you look back through history if possible you will see how people said they wished Todd had been in charge when we were in the championship.

He massively over achieved last season with has beens, out of contract unwanted players and stuff ...

Granted this season he's had more to play with and has had chance to shape his squad.

Everyone was happy with Cadders coming back bar a few who saidhe'd rip this divison apart ....

Todd still can't pay big wages and can only attract players who aren't wanted elsewhere .....

So... Is he to blame or is Julian Rhodes to blame? is Colin trying todo the best with what he has available to him?

Why doesn't he play the youngsters? Are they good enough or is he protecting them from being the next Danny Forrest?

Is it his fault? he does need to go since hes lost the majority of fans but is it all his fault?

Starlite dancer
03-19-2006, 09:28 PM
well said ed. thats wot i think too.

Ed
03-19-2006, 09:28 PM
Did Colin peak too soon with us reaching the dizzy heights of 2nd with a bunch of has beens?

BTW, I think Colin should walk but it's an intresting debate.

Rick
03-19-2006, 09:46 PM
It's Todds signings that are the wasters and are no good, he kept Muirhead, signed Morrison, Petta, Claridge, Caddermateri, etc.

It's Todd who is playing players out of position.

It's Todd who sent out Cooke on loan without having a replacement lined up.

It's Todd's team who are so undisaplined that they have the threat of a suspended fine hanging over them.

It's Todd who had a go at the fans for not turning up to watch the show of piss on display every week.

It's Todd who drops players after playing well and replaces them with his favourites no matter how bad they are.

It's Todd who has lost the respect of the players and the fans.

To sum it up, It's Todd who is at fault.

The real question is,

Season Ticket Sales + Todd still in charge

verses

Season Ticket Sales - Compensation paid to Todd

Todd knows how skint we are maybe he will resign and save us alot of money but knowing Todd he will have to be pushed.

I bet hardly anyone bothered to turn up to todays open day and it doesn't take a genius to figure out why.

Parrot
03-19-2006, 10:13 PM
Well Ed, he's managed to take the team backwards this season, despite having a larger wage budget & claiming to have got "his men" during the close season... the guys a numpty, anyone who has seen more than a handful of games this season will see gross incompetance where his tactics/substitutions are concerned:(

Neddy
03-19-2006, 10:41 PM
Is Todd really to blame or the fans? after an intresting discussion today with BaldBantam is it really Todd's fault?

LAst season kicked off after we were 10 minutes away from going bust we then built a squad of players with a few weeks togo before the season kicked off.

If you look back through history if possible you will see how people said they wished Todd had been in charge when we were in the championship.

He massively over achieved last season with has beens, out of contract unwanted players and stuff ...

Granted this season he's had more to play with and has had chance to shape his squad.

Everyone was happy with Cadders coming back bar a few who saidhe'd rip this divison apart ....

Todd still can't pay big wages and can only attract players who aren't wanted elsewhere .....

So... Is he to blame or is Julian Rhodes to blame? is Colin trying todo the best with what he has available to him?

Why doesn't he play the youngsters? Are they good enough or is he protecting them from being the next Danny Forrest?

Is it his fault? he does need to go since hes lost the majority of fans but is it all his fault?
The trouble is your argument is based on a Myth. I believe we underachieved last season. We had Henderson in goal a year younger wetherall Windass who scored twenty six goals Summerbee who the manager and Windass say was a key player Shaun Harvey said at the meeting in St Georges hall that the first year was our best chance of promotion. We were top in october and let it slip Tod must go.

Parrot
03-19-2006, 11:14 PM
The trouble is your argument is based on a Myth. I believe we underachieved last season. We had Henderson in goal a year younger wetherall Windass who scored twenty six goals Summerbee who the manager and Windass say was a key player Shaun Harvey said at the meeting in St Georges hall that the first year was our best chance of promotion. We were top in october and let it slip Tod must go.

Too right Ned, we virtually retained the team that got relegated "un-luckily" if losing by the odd goal was owt to go by:rolleyes: , yet despite making a great start, Turd managed to upset most the 1st team by Xmas which ensured he lost the dressing room, never to regain it, a claim surely backed up by yesterdays spineless display?:confused: :mad:

briggus
03-20-2006, 08:31 AM
Is Todd really to blame or the fans? after an intresting discussion today with BaldBantam is it really Todd's fault?

LAst season kicked off after we were 10 minutes away from going bust we then built a squad of players with a few weeks togo before the season kicked off.

If you look back through history if possible you will see how people said they wished Todd had been in charge when we were in the championship.

He massively over achieved last season with has beens, out of contract unwanted players and stuff ...

Granted this season he's had more to play with and has had chance to shape his squad.



Everyone was happy with Cadders coming back bar a few who saidhe'd rip this divison apart ....

Todd still can't pay big wages and can only attract players who aren't wanted elsewhere .....

So... Is he to blame or is Julian Rhodes to blame? is Colin trying todo the best with what he has available to him?

Why doesn't he play the youngsters? Are they good enough or is he protecting them from being the next Danny Forrest?

Is it his fault? he does need to go since hes lost the majority of fans but is it all his fault?
Probably not all his fault - as some the experienced players have to look at themselves. Are they dying for the cause - no!
The question I ask is how many players have improved under Colin Todd - from last season? Fitness levels do not appear to be as good as some of the teams we see. Passing and movement seems inferior
The lack of flexibility with his tatics - and his what can only be perceived as punishing certain players by dropping them completely after one game because of their performance or a mistake made. This can do little for their confidence.
His recruitment of certain players seems to indicate a lack of research - which asks how much scouting takes place by himself and Bobby Davison.
If we are to retain Their services - I believe CT and BD have to review their approach to management if we are to move forward.

The answer might be bringing in another coach with fresh ideas - with Bobby Davison taking charge of the reserves.

If a complete change - to save pennies - what about Weatherall with Greg Abbot as coach?

Superfatbantam
03-20-2006, 10:28 AM
Is Todd really to blame or the fans?

I don't understand how the fans can be to blame, Ed? I know probably the majority now have unrealistically high expectations and many forget where we were 2 years ago in terms of the business of the club, but are you really suggesting any of the current problems are our fault?

Perhaps we shouldn't have bothered 2 years' ago and then we wouldn't have to whinge and moan on here! We could all sit back safe in the knowledge we can reminisce about the good old times and then pack ourselves off to watch Red Lion Crusaders in the Londis League Division 4 clash with Manningham Rovers (kick off 10.30am, Sunday at the pitch on Canal Road just past Arnold Lavers - please come changed as the dressing rooms are attrocious and there are no showers, drinks afterwards in the hovel down the road, free corned beef hash with drippin' and bread).

I can't get what you mean by that first question cos you don't qualify it.

Spoonhead
03-20-2006, 05:59 PM
I think that ultimately, Todd has to take the blame. Yes, some of the players don't seem to play at their best every week but part of Todd's job is to make sure they do. As others have pointed out, there are smaller clubs than us fighting for promotion. Even being 18 months since administration is no excuse for me to be so close to going down. He's brought the wrong players in and he seems reluctant to make changes. I don't think we even used all 3 subs on Saturday! Schuey was shite and Kerney didn't come on. Muirhead was his usual crap and Colbeck stayed on the bench! We were getting mauled in midfield and he didn't change the system. When their second goal went in mbw ran over to the bench and I assumed the message from Todd was to match up in midfield by dropping one of the strikers in there, apparently not. He's got it wrong on the pitch and off it. Todd out.

ChuckleBantam
03-20-2006, 06:09 PM
It's a quarter his fault and three quarters the fault of his bosses who haven't got a fricking clue. The fact he's still here despite us now being in freefall is confirmation of that. Even Jose and Rafa would struggle to get results working with the obstacles the divs from upstairs have caused. Todd has come to the end of the line, Todd should have gone after the MK Dons defeat. But I applaud the job he's done to a point given what the poor fecker has had to contend with every time he's come into work.

Dr Wisey
03-20-2006, 08:16 PM
well you always make me smile Chuck lol !