View Full Version : What a difference a decent keeper makes
Shipley Bantam
10-15-2005, 04:12 PM
The amount of times I heard the commentators say Ricketts had come and safely collected the ball was unbelievable, we'd have probably drawn or lost that game with Haworth in goal, get MBW back fit and playoffs here we come!
Dbantx
10-15-2005, 04:29 PM
Aye, you could never really tell how much of an impact Recketts made before but when you have a dodgy keeper between the sticks for a couple of months you realise The Don is a decentish keeper.
BantamJay
10-15-2005, 04:38 PM
What was it 7 games witthout keeping a clean sheet with Howarth in goal?
Now as soon as Ricketts comes back we get a clean sheet! Sh*t myself though when they said he was injured and we didn't have a keeper on the bench!
This poor lad Howarth get's some stick.
Do people fail to mention he was part of the team that went 6 un-beaten? or best run in 4 years?
Shipley Bantam
10-16-2005, 02:18 PM
Best run in 4 years...wasn't exactly hard to do bearing in mind our last 4 years Ed! :eek:
Nearly every goal Haworth let in you couldn't help but feel he should have done better. Blackpool, Colchester, Huddersfield...
Theres no doubting he's a good shot stopper but on its own that isn't good enough, has anyone told him he CAN shout at his defenders? Or that he CAN come for crosses? If he could do those two things he'd be a decent (ish) keeper but he can't, which IMO makes him a below average goalie.
It's no coincidence in my eyes that we kept a clean sheet with Ricketts back in goal.
Howarth is a very young keeper, with good prospects.
Howarth is this season's Lee Crooks. We can't bash him cos' he's doing good so we'll go look elsewhere. I know, we'll pick that young lad tween the sticks.
Sure he's not been a world class keeper, but then he's not entirely to blame is he? Bower hasn't displayed the form he did last season nor has wethers and if Howarth had been behind those two last season we'd of seen a very different player in Howarth.
I harped on all last season about Lee Crooks, everyone laughed .... now look, most improved player this season.
last season we went on a 5 game unbeaten run, Todd got manager of the month for that run. People are always looking for a scape goat and this season it's Howarth closely followed by Holloway.
Judging by what i heard (not seen) Howarth would of probably of come away with a cleansheet also.
tony d
10-16-2005, 03:18 PM
Hes exactly what we got him for ..
A young back up keeper with bags of potential..
He has lots to learn but excels in some areas already, as long as he continues to progress then we will have a very good young keeper on our books who will push DR for a 1st team slot next year...
king billy
10-16-2005, 03:20 PM
Hes exactly what we got him for ..
A young back up keeper with bags of potential..
He has lots to learn but excels in some areas already, as long as he continues to progress then we will have a very good young keeper on our books who will push DR for a 1st team slot next year...
Did "your mates who go" give you that opinion Tone?.....:D
tony d
10-16-2005, 03:34 PM
Did "your mates who go" give you that opinion Tone?.....:D
Did your daddy say it was ok to say that Wrosemary....??
ChuckleBantam
10-16-2005, 03:40 PM
Did "your mates who go" give you that opinion Tone?.....:D
It's the group of people that say he isn't that make me think he might be worth persevering with.
Dbantx
10-16-2005, 03:47 PM
Howarth has been known for poor command of his area and not coming for crosses throughout his career...thats four years if you count his days at York, why should he get any better?
king billy
10-16-2005, 03:53 PM
Howarth has been known for poor command of his area and not coming for crosses throughout his career...thats four years if you count his days at York, why should he get any better?
NOOOOOOOooooo don't dare say that Dan.....the master, the gimp and Tony's "mates that go" think differently.....
*tonyd's "mates that go"*
http://fairytales.canalblog.com/leprechauns.jpg
As a fellow goalkeeper I can see the potential in Howarth but he needs the right coach behind him. He needs confidence also.
I watched him warming up before the colchester game and he looked confussed by what they were trying to get him todo. They seemed to always hook the ball under his cross bar for him to catch when he was shouting put it by the penalty spot. Owen Morrison then took the ball away from that old guy who does the crosses and whipped them into the penalty spot and he said thanks! so it looks like Howarth is wanting to get it right but just isn't getting the help he needs to build his confidence.
A goalkeeper is a real confidence player, people talk about strikers needing confidence but Goalies need it too. IF theres any doubt shown by anyone in the squad you'll start to doubt yourself and will always play the cautious game.
The thing Ricketts has is lots of confidence in himself, even if he get's it wrong he'll try again and again until he gets it right. Howarth isn't from the same mould and needs someone to take him to one side and give him a pep talk.
tony d
10-16-2005, 04:14 PM
Howarth has been known for poor command of his area and not coming for crosses throughout his career...thats four years if you count his days at York, why should he get any better?
Considering he is only 23, that keepers dont hit their prime until they are around 26+ at least...4 years ago he was only 19 trying to be a first team keeper...
Those for starters..... How many first team keepers are they in all leagues at this age???????
Wrosemary with a funny picture how unfunny from the man who was just moaning on another thread about the same thing... tut tut Mary...
BTW i do not have any peat pog dwelling friends...Sorry to ruin your picture.....Facts mate... Not that they mean owt to you Matey...
king billy
10-16-2005, 04:33 PM
I have to admit that it was unfortunate that pictures of leprechauns turned up when i typed in "mythical creatures"......:cool:
ChuckleBantam
10-16-2005, 04:43 PM
It's a corker Googling innit?? "I typed in what would the Bantams Bar Top Table have looked like on matchday were it there, pre Wembley season?" And it gave me this;
http://www.chethams.org.uk/img/reading_room_table_detail.jpg
tony d
10-16-2005, 04:51 PM
It's a corker Googling innit?? "I typed in what would the Bantams Bar Top Table have looked like on matchday were it there, pre Wembley season?" And it gave me this;
http://www.chethams.org.uk/img/reading_room_table_detail.jpg
Surely not Chuckles not these life blooders who are soooo quick to shoot people down...
Especially not Mr "i can guarantee ive been to more games then you ever have... Btw way who are you again????":D :p ;)
king billy
10-16-2005, 04:53 PM
A serious question - who's the giver, and who's the taker?.....:eek:
tony d
10-16-2005, 04:56 PM
A serious question - who's the giver, and who's the taker?.....:eek:
A. Your Dad
B You..
NEXT!!!!! Im here all week!!!!
king billy
10-16-2005, 04:58 PM
Another serious question - who old are you tone?.....:eek:
tony d
10-16-2005, 05:00 PM
Another serious question - who old are you tone?.....:eek:
Please make this an interesting punchline Mary...
33....34 in a couple of days...
king billy
10-16-2005, 05:02 PM
There's no punchline - i just had visions of you saying "you - your Dad" in a pre-balls dropped voice in the school playground.....:rolleyes:
use the ignore button you know it makes sense KG;)
it is like being harrassed at a party; constantly being interrupted by two obnxious individuals, when suddenly the Fairy Godmother has heard your plea's; they are frog marched off by two burly men, and bundled into a room and locked in, you are then given the key, and you can then continue discussing and having fun with much more reasonable people:D
tony d
10-16-2005, 05:04 PM
There's no punchline - i just had visions of you saying "you - your Dad" in a pre-balls dropped voice in the school playground.....:rolleyes:
As opposed to you and your whos the giver whos the taker post... You grown up you... The double standards are highly amusing on your planet Mary..
Plus it was a fair answer to a poorly worded question....
ChuckleBantam
10-16-2005, 05:05 PM
For "The Ignore" Button read "The Ones That Constantly Outsmart Me" Button. YOU don't need one of those King Gilly.
sorry can't hear you boys...............it is your own fault, now be good and sit on the naughty step until I come and get you:D
ChuckleBantam
10-16-2005, 05:09 PM
Well in that case;
Go laugh at some dead black people you sick old bat!
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