View Full Version : Todd's reaction to their goal.....
king billy
08-29-2005, 07:13 PM
Sat back in his seat - hands behind his head with his legs crossed, he did that till the end of the game.....his attitude was clearly "FFS, i've done all i can - i give up".....how do you expect the players to react when you clearly didn't give a flying one?.....Hendry was up and down the touchline kicking every ball - while Todd layed back wishing he was on a sun lounger in Crete....:mad:
tony d
08-29-2005, 07:16 PM
I will start it fellas for ya
Sack him bring back i dont wanna come McCall.:mad:
Tony D accepts no responsibility for his outragous post as he never went so isnt allowed to speak out.
Remember your home is at risk if you do not agree with the MB headshed...
king billy
08-29-2005, 07:20 PM
Never said sack him - what i said was his "reaction" (if you can fookin call it that) was pathetic - folk had paid good money to watch that shower - he's supposed to be the "leader" - the "motivator".......
Loads of folk were fooked off Tony - people i've never met before - young, old, female, kids - it was the talk of the crowds on their way out, on the coach and getting into their cars - but we'll listen to you eh?
harrogatebantam31
08-29-2005, 07:23 PM
I thought I'd noticed Toddy sat like that!! But I think it was before they scored too!!
Maybe he was remembering Holloway's wonder goal at the KC and feeling quite pleased that he'd brought such an attacking threat to the game!!:confused:
In Todd I trust, but today was an awful display by him!!
HGTEB31!!
tony d
08-29-2005, 07:35 PM
Never said sack him - what i said was his "reaction" (if you can fookin call it that) was pathetic - folk had paid good money to watch that shower - he's supposed to be the "leader" - the "motivator".......
Loads of folk were fooked off Tony - people i've never met before - young, old, female, kids - it was the talk of the crowds on their way out, on the coach and getting into their cars - but we'll listen to you eh?
I dont expect you to listen to me, but, just exactly how many had gone off injured and how many subs had been used by then...How long was left and how could he change it around when by the sound of things the players had sacked it..
The masses always shout for the head of the manager here. It seems its always greener on the other side until we actually get to the other side.
The problem with these players as with every other City side i can remember is when they are hot they are hot but when they are slightly off they are shite... Not just unlucky but fookin shite...
Only a couple of managers have cured this for short periods of our history and then it comes back.
Now should we change our manager now knowing that this same squad will be accountable to the new guy. Less cash after payout to Todd no new players come Jan and no hope but to slate the new guy but promise to let him have a fair crack next season...
A fair crack being more than a couple of games.....
But hey lets just fookin sack this guy and hope some jock or some lower division manager comes and pulls a blinder... If we play it right Megson will be free soon... :mad:
harrogatebantam31
08-29-2005, 07:41 PM
There's getting injured players - but then there's totally fooking up a less than ideal situation by bringing on that sack of spuds at right back for no reason whatsoever!!
THAT WAS TODD'S DECISION!!!!!
I'm not calling for his head (as nobody else is as far as I can tell), but today he made a bigger mess of a bad position!! He wasn't totally to blame but he has to take some responsibility for it!!
HGTEB31!!
king billy
08-29-2005, 07:51 PM
I'm not calling for Todd's head either - but feck me, as someone who spent in excess of 150 nicka today i feel i'm entitled to criticise him - is that OK tone m8?.....
If i were one of the team and glanced across at our bench and saw him doing that id sack it too.....it was a kick in the teeth for the 2000 fans sat directly opposite him......he's the 1st to lay the boot (publicly) into any of the players who don't perform - he needs to look at himself after today's farce......
I'm not calling for Todd's head either - but feck me, as someone who spent in excess of 150 nicka today i feel i'm entitled to criticise him - is that OK tone m8?.....
If i were one of the team and glanced across at our bench and saw him doing that id sack it too.....it was a kick in the teeth for the 2000 fans sat directly opposite him......he's the 1st to lay the boot (publicly) into any of the players who don't perform - he needs to look at himself after today's farce......
I agree KB........he cannot shirk his responsbility....I didn't fancy us after Saturday, don't know why, just didn't.
At the end of the day, he is their leader, he is the one who decides to play certain players, and at the death he is the one to stand up and be counted. If his players are not performing for him, he has to ask some searching questions about his own performance as a manager. If he doesn't do that, then we will continue to have bad results. I tell you what I don't like about him, his lack of 'substitution nouse' and his preference for certain players as opposed to other players...it is very obvious, and in my view disrupts the team ethic.....
You have to have a good dressing room, without it, we will flounder........now tomorrow when they all come together, he has to stand up in front of his players and take some responsibility.
No Tony I am not saying sack him, it is not the answer, but somebody needs to have a word with him....
tony d
08-29-2005, 08:51 PM
I tell you what I don't like about him, his lack of 'substitution nouse' and his preference for certain players as opposed to other players...it is very obvious, and in my view disrupts the team ethic......
I give you Mr Paul Jewell probably the worst exponent of substitutes in Bradfords History...
Still got us promoted and kept us up...:D
difference there is, Jewell had charisma and the ability to motivate a team..................
tony d
08-29-2005, 09:06 PM
difference there is, Jewell had charisma and the ability to motivate a team..................
Not every match though eh!!!;)
Dbantx
08-29-2005, 09:08 PM
'No Tony I am not saying sack him, it is not the answer, but somebody needs to have a word with him....'
Colin Todd will never change his tactics or preferences no matter what, he never has done throughout his managerial career so why should he start now?
At Derby he favoured playing certain obviously flawed players over others, had a tendency to defend no matter what and a rather familiar tendency to fill the squad up with two many players of a certain position or style thus unbalancing the team.
When he went to Swindon he did exactly the same thing. He built an unbalanced team, played constant defensive tactics even when it was clearly not working, had trouble motivating the team and then when he made a mess and Swindon were fighting relegation he ran.
I dont think we'll get relegated this season but IMO we wont make the playoffs either, im anticipating rubbish consistency, poor home form and a finish somewhere between 12th and 16th.
It is clear already that the team is unbalanced, too many prima-donas or once promising players who dont have any bottle or graft to them and have had past attitude problems, too many players that bottle it when were underperforming and too little inspiration and motivation.
I'm not saying sack him. I'm saying wait while the New Year and if we are 15th or below with poor home form and looking like we wont make a playoff challenge then get rid. Otherwise give him until the end of the year and if we finish any lower than 12th get rid.
If we do worse this season than we did the last then its clear we are going backwards and not forwards. With Todd on a long term contract things will have to be desperate for Rhodes to get rid though, i'm wagering that unless we are involved in a relegation battle in February then he will stay no matter what, bad home form and all.
But cheer up lads, we may still find our feet and start performing at home making a playoff push :D
tony d
08-29-2005, 09:11 PM
'No Tony I am not saying sack him, it is not the answer, but somebody needs to have a word with him....'
Colin Todd will never change his tactics or preferences no matter what, he never has done throughout his managerial career so why should he start now?
At Derby he favoured playing certain obviously flawed players over others, had a tendency to defend no matter what and a rather familiar tendency to fill the squad up with two many players of a certain position or style thus unbalancing the team.
When he went to Swindon he did exactly the same thing. He built an unbalanced team, played constant defensive tactics even when it was clearly not working, had trouble motivating the team and then when he made a mess and Swindon were fighting relegation he ran.
I dont think we'll get relegated this season but IMO we wont make the playoffs either, im anticipating rubbish consistency, poor home form and a finish somewhere between 12th and 16th.
It is clear already that the team is unbalanced, too many prima-donas or once promising players who dont have any bottle or graft to them and have had past attitude problems, too many players that bottle it when were underperforming and too little inspiration and motivation.
I'm not saying sack him. I'm saying wait while the New Year and if we are 15th or below with poor home form and looking like we wont make a playoff challenge then get rid. Otherwise give him until the end of the year and if we finish any lower than 12th get rid.
If we do worse this season than we did the last then its clear we are going backwards and not forwards. With Todd on a long term contract things will have to be desperate for Rhodes to get rid though, i'm wagering that unless we are involved in a relegation battle in February then he will stay no matter what, bad home form and all.
But cheer up lads, we may still find our feet and start performing at home making a playoff push :D
Now thats a good post mate. I agree with that...:eek:
Neddy
08-29-2005, 09:29 PM
Disagree Just look and see what the gate is on Friday,it will be abysmal.we are in to a new season and already we have lost two matches at home and i for one am fed up of it. here are some of the reasons todd should go sooner rather than later.
1 Never learns from his mstakes
2 shows favouritism.
3 Can't motivate
4 hasn't a clue about tactics required in the lower division.
5 Hopeless use of substitutes
I want a good season and everyone deep down knows we arent going to get one with todd Give Wetherall a chance till christman to see how we are doing.
jimmy
08-29-2005, 10:26 PM
I aggree neddy apart form the Wetheral bit.
Todd last year threw the chance of making the play-offs,because he couldnt motivate his players and his choice of picking players who are clearly not good enough.
Hense this year and hes learnt nothing and is clearly doing the same.We have already lost two out of three at home and chesterfield will make it three out of four.The players today just didnt have the heart nor desire and its his job to get them going.
Sorry but if Todd stays we wont even make the top six.
KirkleesMafia
08-29-2005, 10:36 PM
One Terry Dolan !
cibasteve
08-29-2005, 10:51 PM
One Terry Dolan !
Thank fuck for that!
You do realise not all managers dance up and down the touchline at everything, some are more relaxed, it doesn't mean they don't care.
What would you rather have, Hendry because he jumps about, or Todd?
KirkleesMafia
08-30-2005, 07:53 AM
I predict a 6-0 win for City on Friday , I saw the mad monk yesterday on Tong Street and he was mooning at the passing traffic - obviously not Impressed by the loss at Blackpool !:D
Parrot
08-30-2005, 09:56 AM
I predict a 6-0 win for City on Friday , I saw the mad monk yesterday on Tong Street and he was mooning at the passing traffic - obviously not Impressed by the loss at Blackpool !:D
If he turns up he can play in our midfield!:D
harrogatebantam31
08-30-2005, 11:47 AM
I do think we're going a bit over-board with the 'we need to think about getting rid of Toddy' comments.
Yes his lack of a midfielder on the bench and the decision to bring on Holloway were poor, but I don't think he's suddenly become a dismal manager over night!!
Let's just keep calm - a knee jerk reaction wil only make things worse - and in 2 games time when we've taken 6 points everything will be rosey again!! :D
HGTEB31!!
Wicker Man
08-30-2005, 01:34 PM
in 2 games time when we've taken 6 points
i'll hold you to that one
Neddy
08-30-2005, 02:22 PM
I do think we're going a bit over-board with the 'we need to think about getting rid of Toddy' comments.
Yes his lack of a midfielder on the bench and the decision to bring on Holloway were poor, but I don't think he's suddenly become a dismal manager over night!!
Let's just keep calm - a knee jerk reaction wil only make things worse - and in 2 games time when we've taken 6 points everything will be rosey again!! :D
HGTEB31!!
Not overnight twenty years ago
I do think we're going a bit over-board with the 'we need to think about getting rid of Toddy' comments.
Yes his lack of a midfielder on the bench and the decision to bring on Holloway were poor, but I don't think he's suddenly become a dismal manager over night!!
Let's just keep calm - a knee jerk reaction wil only make things worse - and in 2 games time when we've taken 6 points everything will be rosey again!! :D
HGTEB31!!
you've answered another question, the two forwards, claridge excepted, had an awful game in front of goal though, todd has to re-arrange the team again around centre- midfield to stand a hope against chesterfield
tony d
08-30-2005, 02:32 PM
you've answered another question, the two forwards, claridge excepted, had a shite game in front of goal though, todd has to re-arrange the team again around midfield to stand a hope against chesterfield
He only had 10 mins kiko:(
todd was complacent, (lucky to get 0-0?) with the subs, and the team selection,
people thought cooke was going on not holloway, hes still a good boss like, he had a bad (technical directors) day too (not blaming emanuel in the cm with invisible crooks)
edgehill was doing well and better on the right, muirhead was the only one who actually looked a bit like scoring yesterday, claridge did well, if he doesn't get some goals he could still become a fans favourite, (it seemed more than 10mins, he got a look in) even petta didn't play his best
cada is about the level of an international schoolboy and howarth playing well for his standard wasn't as good as the blackpool keeper
has lee crooks started tackling not watching yet?
Dbantx
08-30-2005, 03:11 PM
Well i for one will be missing my only home game of the season on Friday night. I have a season ticket and not too happy about missing Chesterfield but...
Must attend one of my mates 18th birthday party, if it was a big game i would have gave the party a miss but after two defeats on the trot would you rather go to a party and get wrecked or go to see city play Chesterfield when we have a good chance of putting in a crap performance and losing.
Watch this, we will win 5-0 now just to spite me :D
Neddy
08-30-2005, 04:59 PM
Well i for one will be missing my only home game of the season on Friday night. I have a season ticket and not too happy about missing Chesterfield but...
Must attend one of my mates 18th birthday party, if it was a big game i would have gave the party a miss but after two defeats on the trot would you rather go to a party and get wrecked or go to see city play Chesterfield when we have a good chance of putting in a crap performance and losing.
Watch this, we will win 5-0 now just to spite me :D
Aren't you the lucky one.
can you find me an excuse not to go please......
KirkleesMafia
08-30-2005, 08:34 PM
No , you can suffer along with the rest of us mugs , I mean Supporters / fans / groupies of anything City:D
beerbantam
10-29-2006, 04:12 PM
Sat back in his seat - hands behind his head with his legs crossed, he did that till the end of the game.....his attitude was clearly "FFS, i've done all i can - i give up".....how do you expect the players to react when you clearly didn't give a flying one?.....Hendry was up and down the touchline kicking every ball - while Todd layed back wishing he was on a sun lounger in Crete....:mad:
He was welded to the dug-out upright for the whole of the second half!!:rolleyes:
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