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Jamaica Love
07-11-2008, 08:25 AM
Fat Barry has returned to training quite fit it seems!!!!!!jawdrop:jawdrop:jawdrop:jawdrop:

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/3202402.Conlon_fits_bill_at_training/

Wonder who is the least fittest? Has anyone passed by and had a look to see what type of training they have been up to??

Mallorcabantam
07-11-2008, 08:34 AM
He does look well -- Hopefully even he well get goals if the new mid-fielders put it on a plate for him -- the Goalkeeper is the most worrying missing piece

Yeadon Bantam
07-11-2008, 09:10 AM
good on the lad if he has been training all summer etc just to get fit to play for city! commitment!

Tallinnbantam
07-11-2008, 09:17 AM
He's probably sick of being called "fat Baz"!

matnab
07-11-2008, 10:24 AM
Wonder who is the least fittest?


Hmmm,sherlock: Fat Bazza ain't fat, I wonder if Omar Lazy has changed? :D

Out of the players who weren't due an op in the summer, I'll go for Omar. Predictable I know.

:sorry:

beerbantam
07-11-2008, 04:28 PM
http://www.evilgerald.com/Issues/Issue5/Assets/westbrook.jpg
Barry's summer regime had worked - but something was missing!!jawdrop:

BantamLad89
07-11-2008, 04:41 PM
Omar's been training with Jamaica all summer hasn't he?

Jamaica Love
07-11-2008, 04:44 PM
Omar's been training with Jamaica all summer hasn't he?
He certainly has my Daley loving pal!!!! I disagree he will be the unfittest in fact was he not given a warning to come back fit? IMO he will be one of our most valuable assets this season, alongside Topp!!

Northern
07-11-2008, 05:06 PM
He certainly has my Daley loving pal!!!! I disagree he will be the unfittest in fact was he not given a warning to come back fit? IMO he will be one of our most valuable assets this season, alongside Topp!!

Aye, Daley came back last year really unfit so Macca made it clear not to do it again. I really hope you're right about Daley, the potential is clearly there.

Bazza looks like he's lost a few pounds though! jawdrop:

Jantje
07-11-2008, 06:37 PM
I read he once scored 17 goals in a season for Darlo, maybe he might surprise us all with his new found fitnessjump:jump::jd:

youngbill
07-13-2008, 12:23 AM
I find it hard to believe that a professional footballer can turn up at the start of a season unfit. Big Baz says that he didn't know what was going to happen last season, as if that is an excuse for turning up unfit. You would think that they would ensure that they were jumping out of their skins to make sure thay impress the gaffer. Surely fitness is like tools of trade when you are being paid to play football.( I know, I'm just an old bugger, and things are different these days) Cheers.

fritter
07-13-2008, 08:12 AM
Surely fitness is like tools of trade when you are being paid to play football.( I know, I'm just an old bugger, and things are different these days) Cheers.

That's what I say when you hear about players who are not "match fit"... When Willy joined we were told he was not match fit. If football is your job surely you should be able to play a 90 minute match whenever you need to?

Yeadon Bantam
07-13-2008, 08:28 AM
Perhaps big baz nearly gave up on footie last year which is why he was unfit?

matnab
07-13-2008, 10:05 AM
He certainly has my Daley loving pal!!!! I disagree he will be the unfittest in fact was he not given a warning to come back fit? IMO he will be one of our most valuable assets this season, alongside Topp!!


As Northern (and nearly everyone else states) Daley certainley could be one of our biggest assetts, and I sincerely hope he is. Theres just been too many let downs for me.

I suppose he will be fit considering he's been wth Jamaica, but I wonder if he'll be in the starting XI by the end of September if we don't have any injuries? It will be interesting to see who fits into our midfield, particularly out wide.

BantamLad89
07-13-2008, 02:09 PM
Don't think we should of kep Omar, he's only going to be seen as a dissapointment to City fans because we do expect alot off him.

Parrot
07-13-2008, 02:11 PM
Don't think we should of kep Omar, he's only going to be seen as a dissapointment to City fans because we do expect alot off him.

He needs to improve his final ball/shot and stop being a lazy barsteward!

I'll be happy if he does that.

matnab
07-13-2008, 02:24 PM
improving his final ball abd shooting is more difficult than increasing your levels of effort. Jamie Lawrence didn't have much of a cross or shot, but his effort makes him a city fave in many peoples eyes. Even above much more naturally talented players like Carbone.

Sleepless in settle
07-13-2008, 06:39 PM
I agree that players should keep themself in shape, sadly there is very little substitute for matches and football training.

Being fit and "Match fit" are two completely different things. The explosive, stop-start cardiovascular nature of football is unlike most other sports and cannot be prepared for by conventional training methods.

As anyone who has played at even sunday league level will tell you, irrespective of how much fitness work you have done in the close season, those first few training sessions and games are fricking awful because there is very little that can prepare you for 90 mins of football other than...well...90mins of football.

The modern day footballer runs anything upto 15km in a game, however with the twisting stopping and starting, its a very different 15km than just going out for a 15km jog.

So to expect players to come back "ready to go" is in my opinion unrealistic. The best you can expect is that they have tried to maintain a healthy lifestyle and core level of cardiovascular fitness in the off season, something which Conlon seemingly has done. The hard work starts now, which is why it's important that most of the transfer activity has occured already or, that future targets are currently in training with a club, otherwise they will be off the pace at the start of the year.

Parrot
07-13-2008, 06:51 PM
As anyone who has played at even sunday league level will tell you, irrespective of how much fitness work you have done in the close season, those first few training sessions and games are fricking awful because there is very little that can prepare you for 90 mins of football other than...well...90mins of football.

Thats true Settle, but I found after 1 or 2 friendlies i was more than match fit, although naturally some players were fitter than others.

Sleepless in settle
07-13-2008, 06:52 PM
improving his final ball abd shooting is more difficult than increasing your levels of effort. Jamie Lawrence didn't have much of a cross or shot, but his effort makes him a city fave in many peoples eyes. Even above much more naturally talented players like Carbone.

I do think a mistake often made by city fans is to categorise players who have a more attacking element to their game as being lazy. Sumerbee, despite being one of the most dangerous players we had, who could deliver a cross with stunning accuracy, could never get a large base of the fans onside because he didnt have the engine of roy keane. Whereas murhead, the antithesis of sumerbee, all energy and no quality was taunted for being a headless chicken with no end product.

Clearly there isnt a surpluss of right wingers freely available that are a combination of final ball quality and tireless effort, otherwise they would be playing at a higher level. So it begs the question, what do we really expect and want from our wingers?

I have seen good and bad from Daley, I'm somewhere in between the Daley fanatics and those who abhor him, I think he has the ability to thrill and frustrate in equal measure, but he offers more to the team than many others
in the squad. I do think that if you can get him uber fit he will be a useful asset and lets be honest he is the one player in our team who opposition managers talk most about, there must be something in that alone!

matnab
07-13-2008, 09:59 PM
I do think a mistake often made by city fans is to categorise players who have a more attacking element to their game as being lazy. Sumerbee, despite being one of the most dangerous players we had, who could deliver a cross with stunning accuracy, could never get a large base of the fans onside because he didnt have the engine of roy keane. Whereas murhead, the antithesis of sumerbee, all energy and no quality was taunted for being a headless chicken with no end product.

Clearly there isnt a surpluss of right wingers freely available that are a combination of final ball quality and tireless effort, otherwise they would be playing at a higher level. So it begs the question, what do we really expect and want from our wingers?

I have seen good and bad from Daley, I'm somewhere in between the Daley fanatics and those who abhor him, I think he has the ability to thrill and frustrate in equal measure, but he offers more to the team than many others
in the squad. I do think that if you can get him uber fit he will be a useful asset and lets be honest he is the one player in our team who opposition managers talk most about, there must be something in that alone!

I think its safe to say that Summerbee produced a lot more than Daley and could justify his place in the team based on his assists alone. When Daley beats his man he usualy shoots way over the bar. I believe he had something like 80 shots for 3 goal last season? If he passed more his asist rate would be much better and hs lack of energy in chasing a lost ball would be easier to forgive.

Whilst Daley is clearly a better player than Ben, I'm not sure he's done much more in terms of goals and assists.

Parrot
07-13-2008, 10:39 PM
I think its safe to say that Summerbee produced a lot more than Daley and could justify his place in the team based on his assists alone. When Daley beats his man he usualy shoots way over the bar. I believe he had something like 80 shots for 3 goal last season? If he passed more his asist rate would be much better and hs lack of energy in chasing a lost ball would be easier to forgive.

Whilst Daley is clearly a better player than Ben, I'm not sure he's done much more in terms of goals and assists.

Spot on there Matnab tup:

Surely a wingers main role in the team is to supply chances for the forwards and chip in with the odd goal now and then?

Omar does neither enough and he might get away with it if he put the effort in instead of standing hands on hips on the halfway line during games!

Colbeck although far from perfect created more chances and scored more goals than Omar and puts the effort in most games, however he's playing.

I really hope Omar comes back with a better attitude this season and starts with a bang, but like Matnab says, he's gotta know when to pass more instead of going for goal!