Rangers Fans

[Yeadon Bantam]

What a disgrace! Wasn't just a few neither looked to be well over a thousand at least on the news! The way they all ganged up on one copper who was running away was disgusting! I realise it wasn't all of the fans but it was disgusting the way they reacted towards the police!

I thought these were good fans?????jawdrop:

Glad im not going to scots cup final anymore.

Was going up to see my Doonhamers beat the rangers. Glad im not now!

[Jantje]

Thats why the old firm should stay in the Pub league and never be welcomed down here in the English League.

They would cause a swathe of destruction across the country.

[Rambo]

I was there yesterday and the fans I were talking to were very friendly. We were sharing alcohol with them and taking pictures with each other.

It was a fantastic atmosphere and even after the final whistle the attitude of the fans from what I saw was brilliant.

After the game, I walked from Manchester Victoria to Piccadilly and the tensions started to rise when the police were getting a bit "physical" by moving the fans onto the train stations and steering them away from most of the city centre.

At Manchester Piccadilly station the police closed it and made around 5000 fans wait to get in. Then they opened the doors and nearly caused a crush. It could have easily caused injuries, and this made the fans even more pissed off.

Basically, the policing of the whole thing was atrocious and it was evident that they hadnt a clue how to deal with such vast amounts of fans

[king billy]

ROFPMSL......because English fans are really well behaved?.....:rolleyes:

Wonder what the devastation would be if 120,000 fans of one of our English clubs went into a foreign country to play?

Compared to our fans Rangers fans are brilliant, they take huge numbers everywhere - and when is there any bother apart from last night? Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they were the English contingent of the Gers support (of which their are thousands) that caused the bother last night!!

[Yeadon Bantam]

Who said anything about scottsh people? I said rangers fans not scottish fans!

[Yeadon Bantam]

shall we see how much violence there is in moscow as well? doubt it will be like that!

[lee]

Gaydie tars all Rangers fans with the violence brush and then KB tars all English fans with the violence brush.

Could be a long thread...

[Jantje]

It only takes a minority of whichever set stoked up with booze for it to kick off KB. The numbers that would travel down here make that minority even bigger.

[Blue Monday]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1166626.ece

Rangers fans on the rampage:rolleyes:

The video footage of fans outnumbering and booting the copper:rolleyes:

[Lofty]

Word on the street is they were tanked up at many service stations in the early hours of Wednesday morning on their way down.

Booze + Defeat + Coppers with itchy baton fingers = A Riot.

The Rangers fans I encounted at Stuart's testimonial were nothing but friendly, pissed as fuck but friendly all the same!

[beerbantam]

Booze + Defeat + Coppers with itchy baton fingers = A Riot.

!

Too much
http://splinteredsunrise.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/braveheart.jpg

+

http://www.egge.net/~savory/friedmars.jpg

+ a massive inferiority complex where the English are concerned...

= http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/video/2008/may/15/uefaviolance

[BBB]

There is no excuse for taking that copper on whilst he was down on the floor doesnt matter what fucking club or country they are from its fucking cowardice.Mob mentallity is for the soft and fucking weak:flame:

[Parrot]

They daren't act like that when they came to Bradford :rolleyes:

As for the Copper, while I dont condone such behaviour he can't have being that hurt as he got up and run away.

Good to see his mates back him up BTW tdwn:

[Dr Wisey]

they can't hold their alcohol it seems - same old loudmouth drunks we had at VP for McCalls testimonial.

[Wicker Man]

ROFPMSL......because English fans are really well behaved?.....:rolleyes:

Wonder what the devastation would be if 120,000 fans of one of our English clubs went into a foreign country to play?

Compared to our fans Rangers fans are brilliant, they take huge numbers everywhere - and when is there any bother apart from last night? Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they were the English contingent of the Gers support (of which their are thousands) that caused the bother last night!!

Theres bias and theres blindness

That post is the latter

[ChuckleBantam]

I can't believe how anyone is surprised. Take away the Rose Tints that they were here for Stu's testemonial and they behaved like Animals in Bradford that afternoon too inside and outside the ground. I said to me old fella, there was going to be bother in Manchester if they lost and lo and behold they didn't dissapoint. Compare this to the Bhoy's exempalary behavior in Seville in 2003 where they took twice as many on a five times bigger journey and there wasn't a jot of bother. Celtic were robbed on that night too, not gubbed fair and square like the Hun's last night, which makes their behavior in Spain all the more magnificent.

I hope UEFA will be looking at a ban from European competition for Rangers after last night.

[1911]

Comments from my friends over in manchester

"saw one take a shit on market street then wipe his arse with an irish flag.

"they just went down market st with their scarves over their faces, bottles in hands and smashed up everything and everyone in sight"

Top fans!!!

[Rambo]

All I can say on the matter is the plod hadnt got a fucking clue how to deal with the amount of fans and shat themselves.

I saw it first hand. The police were shitting themselves. Not because of any trouble the Rangers fans were causing but the sheer vastness of them.

It was the way they dealt with them. I heard the phrase "your not going that way. Go down that road or you will be nicked"

This was from a copper to 50ish year old bloke with his wife. Not that I condone violence but the attitude of the filth triggered hostility IMO.

[Garlic Breath]

"Nowt wrong with mashing a copper"...Ali G circa 2003 not my sentiments you understand.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Yeadon Bantam]

30? people on one copper! wow fair fight! He sufred a broken arm BTW! Could have been worse if he didn't have stab proof armour etc!

[Garlic Breath]

Wow...30 coppers on one drunken man in a Hull Police Station cellhouse...fair fight Adie...you reap what you sow my friend.:mad:

[tony d]

ROFPMSL......because English fans are really well behaved?.....:rolleyes:

Wonder what the devastation would be if 120,000 fans of one of our English clubs went into a foreign country to play?

Compared to our fans Rangers fans are brilliant, they take huge numbers everywhere - and when is there any bother apart from last night? Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they were the English contingent of the Gers support (of which their are thousands) that caused the bother last night!!

Bollox Matty..

Now although Scottish fans as a whole have a good rep it doesnt mean they are all saints does it.. There was no difference between those scum the other night and the Turks who did the Leeds fans...

For you to then try push the blame onto the English Contingent of Pub League fans is even more pathetic...

The were scum nothing more nothing less.. Shame you cannot be a big enough man to admit that Matty... Not like your a Jock is it.. ..

scum!!!!

[Dr Wisey]

KB wears his kilt with pride i hear.

[Garlic Breath]

http://65.214.37.88/ts?t=13048930253257882658

Indeed he does Wisey.:)

[king billy]

I'm not condoning anything - official police statement last night on the 6 o clock news - 200 hundred trouble causers from 200,000 (revised figures) fans - an absolutely fookin trivial amount of trouble causers from such a large amount!!....
No big deal - forget it - move on!!
As for the resident Bhoys comments - did you see the Rangers fans who showed tremendous bottle to go and place scarves, shirts etc at Celtics ground last night as a mark of respect to Tommy Burns? You'd never see that the other way round!! Not to mention the club cancelling the open top bus parade and civic reception as a mark of respect!!
Top fans - PMSL - I seem to remember thousands of Tims "doing the aeroplane" to Claudio Reina (because he was a Yank) a few days after 9/11 in the old firm game, not to mention the staff and players at Celtic not being allowed to wear poppies on remembrance day - at least Strachan has the bollox to wear one!!

[tony d]

200??? a GOOD 50% of those Gers hardmen must of been on that copper then..

I don't know which is funnier, you trying to make out what great fans you have north of the border or the two of you playing tag team explaining just how bad both your fans are ffs..

The reason there isnt more trouble up north is simply down to the fact that when teams such as Aberdeen and Partick etc go to the big twos ground it's hard to match up man for man when one set of yobs has 60,000 and the other 25 fat blokes from Clyde...##

As for the Rangers fans having tremendous bottle for laying down scarves matty, to that i say bollox again, it just shows you that the hoops fans are not as bad as you make out....

Loved the photos of that wanker in the sun gobbing off then getting done by the alsatian then running off crying..Top stuff...

Didnt you villify the Liverpool fans for their actions in Grece last year Matty???

Suppose that was different too as they were English eh!!!

[Yeadon Bantam]

Wow...30 coppers on one drunken man in a Hull Police Station cellhouse...fair fight Adie...you reap what you sow my friend.:mad:
When was this? At least explain yourself......:confused:

[Yeadon Bantam]

Wow...30 coppers on one drunken man in a Hull Police Station cellhouse...fair fight Adie...you reap what you sow my friend.:mad:
And for the record 30 on anyone is out of order!!

[Garlic Breath]

Google it Adie.:rolleyes:

[ChuckleBantam]

When there is violence at any football match it's a minority that are involved. Anybody creating in such a manner is always a small cross section of the attendance at any football match. It was a minority on Wednesday, but it was still disgraceful behavior on a large scale. Behavior that warrants a ban and behavior that cannot be excused by anone with a shred of decency IMHO. Rangers were an embarrasment to British football on and off the pitch on Wednesday. In Seville in 2003 Celtic did their supporters proud on both counts.

[tony d]

Rangers were an embarrasment to British football on and off the pitch on Wednesday. .


An embarrassment to Scottish football, No way would English Hoolis of let a foreign copper back up to his feet!!!!jump::chatter:

Joking aside and i do not know if you are trying to get Matty to bite but you are spot on Dave..

I do hope though Dave that if Celtic every did something simillar you would not try to blame their English contingent of fans in some extremely sad way to clear the Scottish thugery we saw on Wednesday!!!

[ChuckleBantam]

An embarrassment to Scottish football, No way would English Hoolis of let a foreign copper back up to his feet!!!!jump::chatter:

Joking aside and i do not know if you are trying to get Matty to bite but you are spot on Dave..

I do hope though Dave that if Celtic every did something simillar you would not try to blame their English contingent of fans in some extremely sad way to clear the Scottish thugery we saw on Wednesday!!!

Not winding anyone up, just saying what I saw. I was watching the news with me old fella before the kick off with all The Huns in Manchester and I said they'll not be able to behave themselves because it was obvious they wouldn't. On the day the day they came en Masse to Valley Parade they proved they don't know how to and nothing has changed.

I'd probably have rose tints on if it had been Celtic, but I'd be hard pressed to name an incident that Celtic have caused in Europe or anywhere for that matter, that mirrors Rangers fan's the other night. 10 Days after Stu's testemonial, I went to Bellend Road for Gary Kelly's because L666's were hosting Celtic. I started drinking at midday with a big gang of Bhoys in Maguires in Leeds City Centre and gradually over the course of the day made our way over to Bellend Road and there was not one sign of any of the lairy, uncivilised behavior that Rangers demonstred at Stu's game, That's not rose tints or being on a high horse over anything, that's the facts of things as they happened.

Now I'm a proud Brit and love the Union Jack and despise the manner in which do gooders try to demonise it. I've not much Irish Blood in me and have no affinity towards Ireland, but I can only assume it's the laid back Irish influence that dictates the Bhoys always behave themselves when they go anywhere em masse and The Huns behave like Animals. The Tartan Army always have a great reputation abroad and Rangers often try and distance themselves from the National Side, so there maybe something in it that it's the British Mentality that makes them like they are. I personally think it's a British Mentality flawed with a low IQ because I'm British and I know how to behave in a civilised manner on my travels, some of the Hun's that tarnish the Union Jack with their disgraceful attitude and behavior clearly have no comprehension of the word civilised.

[Parrot]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2573741.stm

Must have been Rangers fans disguised as Celtic fans eh? :rolleyes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sport/football/scottish_premier/334094.stm

Remember the title decieder in 1999?

A Celtic fan threw a coin that split the refs head open, invaded the pitch a few times and one jumped/fell of the top tier onto the one below just because they were losing!!!

And here we all are thinking butter wouldn't melt in a Celtic fans mouth :rolleyes:

[lee]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2573741.stm


Shat misen after reading that first line!

"You are in: Wales"

Thank fook I'm not. jump:

[Dr Wisey]

It's all about bigotry/alcohol and the use of religion and extremism that brings out the worst in these 2 clubs supporters - we've all felt the tension and animosity at a City v L666s game (Odsal '86 I won't forget ever - the scum) - but these 2 well it's something altogether more worse - it's just on another scale - i remember talking to some Gers fans after Stu's game at VP and all they kept on about was how many "pakis/ethnics" there were in Bradford (like you don't see many in Glasgow - funny that as i have) and how crap our support was - all you could do was yeah yeah and walk on to the car, you can't argue the toss with masses of alcohol fuelled heavies.

[Yeadon Bantam]

I have lost my respect for rangers tbh!

Cummon QoS do the fuckers! Theres only one Steven Dobbie!!!

[cartmanbantam]

Just watched the sun vid and regardless of what or who started it they should be ashamed to call themselves hooligans! They didn't play fair, they're just bullies and morons....i mean seriously smashing up a car and bouncing on it?? Doesn't take a big man really does it! None of them have anything to be proud of but the sad fact is most of them probably feel proud. Sad lives.

Carty

[ChuckleBantam]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2573741.stm

Must have been Rangers fans disguised as Celtic fans eh? :rolleyes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sport/football/scottish_premier/334094.stm

Remember the title decieder in 1999?

A Celtic fan threw a coin that split the refs head open, invaded the pitch a few times and one jumped/fell of the top tier onto the one below just because they were losing!!!

And here we all are thinking butter wouldn't melt in a Celtic fans mouth :rolleyes:

I feel to see your point. Neither link leads to anything resembling the large scale hooliganism of Wednesday night?

[Parrot]

I feel to see your point. Neither link leads to anything resembling the large scale hooliganism of Wednesday night?

Merely pointing out to balance the argument that Celtic, just like every other club have undesirable supporters that from time to time will bring shame on their club and the vast majority of decent fans who support them.

[tony d]

Only a draw today against the mighty Motherwell as the curse of going all out for a quadruple slips away and a season turns into a big fat empty trophy cabinet...

Unlucky... We see this every year nearly in the Proper League when Man Utd Chelsea or Arsenal get close and one week destroys all the hope and dreams of fans when they realise that their team is actually just as shit as the other ones and all that gobbing throughout the season was just a load of hotair..

Maybe they can pull it out of the bag with two wins..

Hope not.. But then we have to put up with Celtic wannabees gloating about their title win???

But then that will make Strachan a more successful manager up north than O'Neil in a shorter time with less cash and a weaker side???

Mmmmm decisions decisions you two...

Celtic for me then!!!!!!!

[Rambo]

Empty cabinet?

Nice one Tony!! Absolute belter

[Tyneside BCFC]

To be honest it didn't suprise me in the slightest. I suppose i favour Rangers in Scottish football simply because of Stuarts influence, but i thought the behaviour of their fans at Stuarts testimonial left a lot to be desired. I narrowly avoided getting a slap for simply walking against a mass of Rangers fans on the Holywell Ash Lane when some dick decided he'd walk straight into me and try and inititiate a scrap. This wouldn't have been too bad, but i was with my then girlfriend and my dad, hardly a serious mob. Fortunately this c*nt was dragged away by his mates but i was quite fearful for a few seconds.

Every support has it's element, everyone knows it. I was listening to Mike Porky Parry on Talksport with Andy Towsend on my way home from work last night and he was spouting off about the FA cup final being the 'friendly' cup final. Bloody hell, he obviously has never seen his beloved Everton play Cardiff or Pompey in the flesh. Who could ever forget Cardiff fans smashing Bradford to bits on the final game of the season in 1994? Fratton Park is also a bloody nasty place outside the ground, i've seen City there 3 times and each time was risky between the car and the ground, so it shows every club has an element and there is always a potential flash point. BCFC fans are hardly angels are they? Rochdale this year, Blackpool a couple of years ago, plenty of the City v Town games and any games against the Scum. That doesn't mean our support is total scum though does it?

Take the Toon army, supposedly the most passionate and friendliest supporters in the land. Well all i can say is perhaps you should try hanging around the Haymarket or go down the Bigg Market in opposition colours and you wouldn't last two minutes. My brother in law tends to go to NUFC away matches with a very questionable 'unofficial travel club' and i can assure you they are complete loonpots. Same with Sunderland, they have some very dodgy characters hanging around the pubs heading towards Seaburn and Roker (usually because the police monitor pubs on the south side of the Wear by the City centre rather than the north side where the ground is) and cause bother every home match with visiting supporters but Sky TV or M.O.T.D would never believe that it could possibly be the case. That doesn't mean to say that all Newcastle and Sunderland fans are total shits though does it? It's the same with Rangers, what % actually cause the bother? I don't like it, but it will always be the case that a minority will misbehave.

[Dr Wisey]

It's funny what defeat and humiliation does to some footie fans - even these pretend wannabe Ranger fans on here have got it badly - chin up lads your day will come again - I mean it's only the jock league after all.

I like to be different so I'd run with the Hearts Firm - you can't beat a better class of fan from the premier City in Scotland.

[Yeadon Bantam]

http://www.qosfc.com/2007logo01.jpg

FUCKING BRAY 'EM

[Garlic Breath]

Queen Of The South"..??????....why you having a pop at Tony d Adie?:):)

[Superfatbantam]

This is interesting debate, by the way, does anyone else think Rangers could end up with an empty trophy cabinet this year! :D