S-G Eriksson to be sacked?

[Zonnebloem]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7370698.stm

As long as he gets paid off, he's probably well rid of that Thai feller who's waiting for his millions of assets to be unfrozen.

He's done an Ok job in my opinion.

[Gary1975]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7370698.stm

As long as he gets paid off, he's probably well rid of that Thai feller who's waiting for his millions of assets to be unfrozen.

He's done an Ok job in my opinion.


Just an OK job
He as recorded Man City's best points tally in the premiership so he as done more than ok.
Funny that even the normal fickle Man City fans can see what a massive improvement he as made on there club :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Blue Monday]

Just an OK job
He as recorded Man City's best points tally in the premiership so he as done more than ok.
Funny that even the normal fickle Man City fans can see what a massive improvement he as made on there club :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Bonkers isnt it, as you say Man City's best points tally and you get backing like this ""City owner Thaksin Shinawatra told Eriksson he was not the right man for the job""

Well I hope they get relegated next year, Its seem very similar to the Birmingham / Bruce scenario. Bruce not good enough for the club, mmmmm Bet they wish they could swap places with wigan:rolleyes:

[Zonnebloem]

He had quite a wad of cash to spend. Some of his signings were a bit hit and miss. I had big expectations for Bianchi but that never happened. There were also some very bad results, like losing 6-0 at Chelsea and the last one losing at home to (Fulham - was it?). I reckon the other teams sussed out that you stop Elano in midfield and you stop the team. Then there were injuries and Elano had to play at full-back. The momentum was backwards by the end of the season. These were all reasons why you could say that he just did an OK job, instead of a great one.

On the whole though, Man City looked to be on course for an improvement in the medium to long term and it's all wrong that non-football people are responsible for hiring and firing the managers.

The one who is saying S-GE was not the right man for the job has obviously changed his mind, since he hired him.

[Gary1975]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7373404.stm

I like Noel

[Parrot]

Another chairman sees through Svens managerial ability :rolleyes:

I dont think Svens a bad manager but he's not VFM IMO :(

I bet you could employ Jose M for the same or even less and he'll guarantee you trophies ;)

[Gary1975]

Another chairman sees through Svens managerial ability :rolleyes:

I dont think Svens a bad manager but he's not VFM IMO :(

I bet you could employ Jose M for the same or even less and he'll guarantee you trophies ;)

What with just 40 million i bleeding doubt it

[Jamaica Love]

I bet you could employ Jose M for the same or even less and he'll guarantee you trophies ;)
PMSL thats the best joke youve ever posted...in the wrong section though!!

[tony d]

He had to bui,ld a brand new squad with that 40 million.. Players he brought in had to gel from the off..

For me he has done a great job at Man City and his chairman is mental not to give him another season and see what he can do now he has the foundations of a decent squad.

Says in the papers the players he signed only signed because of him and now want to go...

Daft decision...

Liverpool job waiting after Liverpool go out tonight lol...Calm down scouse lovers!!!!

[meelin]

I think Sven has been hard done by, whoever they bring in will want all their own players, staff, etc, and the team will have to hit the ground running.

The Thai bloke must surely realise that you can't expect to break the top 4 monopoly after just one season,if at all.

No wonder most City fans are pissed off, best season they have had in years, the double over Man Utd for the first time in what seems like centuries, and now this.

Having said all that,Sven will trouser another massive wad of cash when he goes,so even though he may be disapponted about the decision, at least he will be quids in.

[Parrot]

What with just 40 million i bleeding doubt it

How much have O'Neil or Redknapp spent this season?

Both are higher placed than City and I bet combined they aren't on as much money as Sven.

PMSL thats the best joke youve ever posted...in the wrong section though!!

Why?

Do you think Jose Mourinho doesn't gaurantee you trophies but Sven does?

When was the last time Sven won something compared to Mourinho?:rolleyes:

I dont rate Sven, he's not a bad manager but he's not a great one either yet he commands and receives huge wages that gullible chairman fall for time after time. :(

[Gary1975]

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr are you forgetting that both Harry and Martin have been at there clubs longer

[Parrot]

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr are you forgetting that both Harry and Martin have been at there clubs longer

No.

Can you tell me why you rate Sven so highly?

[Gary1975]

Where did i say i RATE Sven highly ?

[Parrot]

Where did i say i RATE Sven highly ?

Well do you or dont you?:confused:

[Gary1975]

Do i rate him highly ?

After what he did with England NO

[Parrot]

Do i rate him highly ?

After what he did with England NO

Actually he's got a good record at club level, but he fails to inspire me.

He did an ok job at City and their fans seem universally upset he's leaving....I just dont think he's one of the best managers in the World that his costly wages seem to suggest...like I said earlier, he's not VFM IMO.

Pound for pound he's poor value IMO :(

[tony d]

TALKING SHIT..HE HAD GOOD eNGLAND RECORD..

Also has best ManCity record in how manyh years????????????????????????

[king billy]

Pound for pound Parrot is right - Sven is poor value for money, he's made more money out of management than anyone else currently managing, he's also very greedy and follows the pound signs......he thought he wouldn't be under much pressure at City compared with other well paid and higher pressure jobs on offer in Europe, he thought he could splash the cash, improve their position and justify his huge wage for a few years, if he'd have had true ambition to win something rather than following the dollars he'd have taken one of the big jobs in Italy or Spain that were on offer a year ago!!

[tony d]

Pound for pound Parrot is right - Sven is poor value for money, he's made more money out of management than anyone else currently managing, he's also very greedy and follows the pound signs......he thought he wouldn't be under much pressure at City compared with other well paid and higher pressure jobs on offer in Europe, he thought he could splash the cash, improve their position and justify his huge wage for a few years, if he'd have had true ambition to win something rather than following the dollars he'd have taken one of the big jobs in Italy or Spain that were on offer a year ago!!

That's one way of looking at it i suppose Matty...#

The flip side is he started with a shite squad and flooded it with players he didnt have time to properly scout. Players of a decent ability.

He thought this would help to start an initial upturn in the clubs fortunes and it has done by in his first season producing a top 10 side..

He could have gone to Italy or Spain and taken the easy rout but chose to take a challenge..

For me the season to judge him is next season... He has turned Man City into a decent side who with the right transfers this window could challenge for Europe next term...

Some folk seem not to look past the couple of poor results for England he had...

[Parrot]

That's one way of looking at it i suppose Matty...#

The flip side is he started with a shite squad and flooded it with players he didnt have time to properly scout. Players of a decent ability.

He thought this would help to start an initial upturn in the clubs fortunes and it has done by in his first season producing a top 10 side..

He could have gone to Italy or Spain and taken the easy rout but chose to take a challenge..

For me the season to judge him is next season... He has turned Man City into a decent side who with the right transfers this window could challenge for Europe next term...

Some folk seem not to look past the couple of poor results for England he had...

I suppose he was in a similar position as Macca, bringing a load of recommended players to the club.

Difference Is that Macca started poorly in comparison and has slowly exerted his influence on the squad while Sven started great but Man City's results have steadily got worse as the season progresses!

I wouldnt say it was the results he had for England that people complain about, its how he handled situations during games.

A good manager to me knows how to turn a game on its head by changing tactics or using his subs wisely....a bit like Ramos at Spurs, but Sven never showed me he could do that.

Like Matt says, he seems more concerned courting money using his over inflated ego than winning trophies.

Thats my opinion of Sven anyway!

[Superfatbantam]

Pound for pound Parrot is right - Sven is poor value for money, he's made more money out of management than anyone else currently managing, he's also very greedy and follows the pound signs......he thought he wouldn't be under much pressure at City compared with other well paid and higher pressure jobs on offer in Europe, he thought he could splash the cash, improve their position and justify his huge wage for a few years, if he'd have had true ambition to win something rather than following the dollars he'd have taken one of the big jobs in Italy or Spain that were on offer a year ago!!

Not his fault people offer stupid money for contracts, he does a decent job and then they let him go with a payout to cancel his contract. You'd do the same, sir!

[tony d]

A good manager to me knows how to turn a game on its head by changing tactics or using his subs wisely....a bit like Ramos at Spurs, but Sven never showed me he could do that.

Like Matt says, he seems more concerned courting money using his over inflated ego than winning trophies.

Thats my opinion of Sven anyway!

Ramos??? No wins in 8 and treading water in the lower mid table region???

The Carling Cup final??? Is that YOUR ARGUMENT??? Sven did the double against United!!

Sven changed matches when he was England manager.. Thought he never lost a qualifier too.. Best modern day record post 66.... etc etc..

His record will stand the test of time and most nations would be more than happy.. Once you get to the last 8 of a tournament then luck plays part and we never had that...

We are one of the top ten teams in the world so getting to the last 16 in a comp is as expected.. The rest as i said is luck induced...

With Man City he has done an amazing job and next season would have been his make or break. The Chairmen offer him his contract... They can say no to his demands and get someone else cann't they???

Strange...

[Gary1975]

Sven stated that it was a 3 year plan the first year was to finish top 10 which he will achieve so why sack him now if he as done what he set out to do.
It's about time they took a leaf out of there neighbours book and realise that sacking managers left right and center does not get you anywhere.

One more thing if he does sack Sven then the next manager will after finish top 5 or be branded a failure wont he ?

[Parrot]

Ramos??? No wins in 8 and treading water in the lower mid table region???

The Carling Cup final??? Is that YOUR ARGUMENT??? Sven did the double against United!!

Im on about what I've observed during games...Ramos and managers liker Mourinho ect... can see where the problem lies in the first 20 minutes or so and change things that usually end up making the team play better than before or turn a defeat into a victory.

I haven't seen Sven do this unless you call coming from behind against the likes of Macedonia in a WC qualifier an achievement? :rolleyes:

Would you put Sven above the likes of Mourinho, Fergie or Wenger then for example?

Im sure he's on the same if not more money than those above but i know who'd i'd employ given the choice.

[tony d]

Im on about what I've observed during games...Ramos and managers liker Mourinho ect... can see where the problem lies in the first 20 minutes or so and change things that usually end up making the team play better than before or turn a defeat into a victory.

I haven't seen Sven do this unless you call coming from behind against the likes of Macedonia in a WC qualifier an achievement? :rolleyes:

Would you put Sven above the likes of Mourinho, Fergie or Wenger then for example?

Im sure he's on the same if not more money than those above but i know who'd i'd employ given the choice.

No i wouldnt put him in front of Wenger, Fergie, Jose or even Rafa..His wages are irrellevant mate.. He doesnt pay his own wages his boss does and if his bosses choose to make him a top earner then so be it..

I would however put him in the next bracket behind the ones you mentioned.. His managerial records stands him in that bracket just behind the current big boys..

He achieved the first part of his 3 year plan next year would have seen him really earn his cash in turning a side just off the Euro pace into a strong euro placed finisher..

Now do i think he would have done that.. Yes i do...

As to your Ramos scenario ..Get real mate.. He hasn't managed to change anything in his last 8 games has he???

Ramos still has alot to prove imho... He is known as a Cup man not a League man and im not seeing anything different... Tactical genius!!! Nope...

Saying that next season is imo his first real one with a squad he can call his own just as Sven would have.. But only Ramos will be able to show his stuff as it looks like Sven will be running Anfield :rolleyes: