Macca Bank Account

[ernie06]

I dont know if this has been debated on here before - if it has I apologise in advance.

With the flyers on Saturday it stated that an account would be opened for macca's transfer fund next season and it would be published in the t&A and would be a visiable fund so no rip offs!!

why would anyone put their cash into this account - isnt the idea to be self funding and not asking the supporters to once again bail out the club and fund a battle chest - one that would be visiable to every agent and club who we negotiate with?


makes as much sense as the buy one get one free idea??????

[Superfatbantam]

I dont know if this has been debated on here before - if it has I apologise in advance.

With the flyers on Saturday it stated that an account would be opened for macca's transfer fund next season and it would be published in the t&A and would be a visiable fund so no rip offs!!

why would anyone put their cash into this account - isnt the idea to be self funding and not asking the supporters to once again bail out the club and fund a battle chest - one that would be visiable to every agent and club who we negotiate with?


makes as much sense as the buy one get one free idea??????

No I hadn't seen this and I think this would be a disastrous move for all the reasons you have said.

So basically, if we don't "donate" enough into the transfer kitty then McCall will struggle to get the players and we will struggle on the field, meaning it'll be all the supporters' fault, again! :rolleyes:

I think we are in total agreement on this one, duck! tup:

[panther]

Ernie, I never saw one of these flyers on saturday... where were they being handed out and by whom?

[NormanCorner]

They're a right cyniical bunch are these former chairmen of supporters groups.

Crikey lads ....I would assume that Mr McCall would have a budget of 'X' amount of pound notes from the board plus whatever can be gleaned from the fans in the form of the seperate bank account.

FFS ..we get the cheapest season tickets in the whole wide WURLD and yet the cynics are still moaning. At least we have the choice wether we contribute to the transfer fund or not.

[panther]

roflmao: Norm...

I just wondered who had seen the flyers - I didnt... did you?

[lee]

They were handing them out on the turnstiles in the Ciba as you went in, I got one and there were about 200 on the floor immediately after the turnstiles. :rolleyes:

[NormanCorner]

Yeah, I've got one in front of me ...t'was handed out at the turnstiles.

[Superfatbantam]

They're a right cyniical bunch are these former chairmen of supporters groups.

Crikey lads ....I would assume that Mr McCall would have a budget of 'X' amount of pound notes from the board plus whatever can be gleaned from the fans in the form of the seperate bank account.

FFS ..we get the cheapest season tickets in the whole wide WURLD and yet the cynics are still moaning. At least we have the choice wether we contribute to the transfer fund or not.

Aye, but come on, Norm, this smacks of a lease and buy-back system tied to the fixtures and fittings with a sub-contracted arrangement with a European Holding Company who own 20% of Wetherall's big toe-nail. Even a former maggot-eating champion like yourself can see that! :rolleyes:

[NormanCorner]

Aye, but come on, Norm, this smacks of a lease and buy-back system tied to the fixtures and fittings with a sub-contracted arrangement with a European Holding Company who own 20% of Wetherall's big toe-nail. Even a former maggot-eating champion like yourself can see that! :rolleyes:


NO! .....I consider it to be an opportunity for fans to show their appreciation (if they so desired)

[Superfatbantam]

NO! .....I consider it to be an opportunity for fans to show their appreciation (if they so desired)

Blumming ummer, where's thar sense of humour, old lad? :rolleyes:

Still I don't agree with a fan-based donation system to bolster the transfer kitty. Why not throw it into the youth development and let's start bringing our own in, eh?

[NormanCorner]

Blumming ummer, where's thar sense of humour, old lad? :rolleyes:

Still I don't agree with a fan-based donation system to bolster the transfer kitty. Why not throw it into the youth development and let's start bringing our own in, eh?


Did you attend the gentlemans night out in the banqueting suite in aid of the YOOF set up?

[Parrot]

I thought the Board and Co. chairmen were supposed to fund team strengthening? ;)

I would have donated my life savings but they're tied up with that nice Nigerian bloke who sent me them e-mails about him needing a few grand to release his millions........Haven't heard from him since he encashed my cheque though....:rolleyes:

[NormanCorner]

I seem to remember one of the supporters groups funding the transfer of Ben Muirhead.

[Parrot]

Whats happened to the last transfer kitty the supporters raised?

As It fallen down the back seat of the chairmans sofa? :rolleyes:

[Mallorcabantam]

I seem to remember one of the supporters groups funding the transfer of Ben Muirhead.

To Rochdale :D

[ChuckleBantam]

I wouldn't even donate the fiver up I am from scamming tweedle dum and tweedle dummer's Season Ticket Deals.

Maybe they could start the ball rolling by putting in this season's money that mysteriously went AWOL.

[Dr Wisey]

It seems that a fair few are now too eager to squash any attempt by JR and ML to turn around the club.
I reckon Norms got it right - we saw the back of fatman etherington and with him, hopefully the last of all that represented.
I've been a fierce critic previously, but on reading about what is happening at VP, season ticket deals, the 1911 suite, fan communication - then i have to now put my support back with those running the show.
I'm sure they have all learnt from this season, and we should be all the better for it in 08/09.
It's your choice of course, I'm just trying to put across my view - as someone who cried out imaginative and bold marketing of the club - that has now become a longer term reality.
I see nothing wrong with supporters donating to a transfer fund kitty, as long as it's fully transparent and above board - it's all down to individual choice.
We can't solely rely on youth development to move the club higher in the short term, how many clubs do in reality?

[Dr Wisey]

Quite right about the supporters trust as well - was it £10k for Muirhead to come to VP?

[Dr Wisey]

Ref the last £20k raised - for those who could be arsed to attend the BCST AGM - ML confirmed this amount and that it was all allocated to team strengthening - for me this was a point of contention previously as no one seemed to want to say how much was raised and where it had gone.
As such, the statement from ML answered any query i had.

[panther]

TBH I think the idea was put forward by some on the omb - its a matter of if you want to then you can... I always said we stopped fundraising far too early.. it should perhaps be an ongoing thing, but there again thats my opinion.

[Superfatbantam]

I suppose the point I am making is we are not a charity.

Yes the Trust raised funds to support a loan move for Ben Muirhead, times were different. The CLub gives out a message of financial stability and profit making and can make a fantastic offer of £150 a season ticket let alone a free one if we hit 9000 adult st holders. However, we then look to top up the transfer kitty with donations.

Perhaps I am cynical but you know as well as I do Norm, Wisey et al if you had seen the figures I saw and you had tried and tried to get your head round how we could go from a clean slate to a loss-making within the first year after admin then you would always harbour doubts about how the Club manages its business. I applaud the ambition of various schemes but I do not like a fan-based donation scheme to fund a transfer kitty, especially if donations are directly to the Club. Where is the accountability? And that is one thing the Club are still very very closed shop on - the balance sheets. Their choice but while they do some of us will still have concerns about taking their word at face value. We did that with Geoff remember, and suddenly realised that whilst we all thought the Club was still doing well we had been duped into a sense of false security.

I would rather there are some cynical ones out there so the questions are asked than we all just swallow what the CLub says. It doesn't make me any less enthusiastic about the future of our club. Just pisses a few off no doubt!

[Superfatbantam]

TBH I think the idea was put forward by some on the omb - its a matter of if you want to then you can... I always said we stopped fundraising far too early.. it should perhaps be an ongoing thing, but there again thats my opinion.

The Supporters Trust still welcomes donations to their Youth devlopment fund, all monies raised go to the Club's youth development. We never stopped, just changed our focus.

Norm, I didn't even know about the Gentleman's evening. I may have gone had I known. It is hardly fair to criticise me though if that is what you infer, I am quite happy that I have done my bit and continue to do so by donating to the YOOF fund when I renew my trust membership. I wouldn't ask you the same question, sir, knowing what you did as well, just like I don't doubt 99% of us on here and similar web-based discussion forums did their bit when called upon.

If the Club is going to be short on the transfer kitty then don't offer the season tickets at a price or offer that is clearly undercutting the budget requirements. As someone else says it's hardly rocket science. ;) Either that or tell us we are on a rebuilding programme and funds will not dictate that we can attract a team likely to be challenging for top spot, but that would be defeatist eh? Can't be having that in amongst this mass euphoria.

Norm, pm me if you want a less public discussion about it! I'm entitled to be cynical after my experiences with City, as I am sure is Ernie! tup:

[Garlic Breath]

Mark Lawn is a multimillionaire with more money that all of us can ever dream of.
I dont ask him to pay my gas bill.:confused:

[Superfatbantam]

And I was shouted down when I dared to criticise Lawn for being interested but never ever talking to the people who were heading up the fundraising when it was do or die! Maybe that is why I am a cynical sod. Oh to be a ruthless bastard eh.....

[panther]

now you know my feelings on him but to be fair to him (never thought I would say that) he did put an awful lot of money into the funds, first time round...

[Dr Wisey]

it's the money that talks at the end of the day.

I'd like to see the BCST prosper and become a real financial partner for the club, but it seems the vast majority either are not interested or view it all with suspicion - strange what a few Icelandic Prawns and Sparkling Chardonnay can do to some folk lol!

[ernie06]

cynical moi!!!!! - Never.

It seems strange that the club have to put the account sin the T&A to assure the public that it is being spent wisley - they clearly know that no one trusts them

If the figure from the last cap in hand exercise was only 20K - why do they think this will be any better.

TBH - £150 per ticket is all the football is worth at VP this season anyway.

I come on here almost every day to read the views - I havent been away from home this season and do not go to every home game - life away from Valley Parade at the moment is much better for the experience.

However I DO see the privilage of running a football club to include the commitment to fund the transfer and wages budget - without the need for a supporters cap in hand exercise - but life is all about opinions......

[Dr Wisey]

freedom of speech yep Ernest - I am disturbed by the change in SFB and believe he is now firmly under the control of the reptilians.

[Jantje]

freedom of speech yep Ernest - I am disturbed by the change in SFB and believe he is now firmly under the control of the reptilians.

roflmao:roflmao: We've had our suspicions for a while:eek::rolleyes:

[Superfatbantam]

freedom of speech yep Ernest - I am disturbed by the change in SFB and believe he is now firmly under the control of the reptilians.

Why? Cos I have my concerns about the Club's well-being. I do not ever want to be in a position again where we are shocked or surprised at the state of our Club's finances.

I share your views about the Trust, but perhaps the cynicism, apathy, doubts and aspersions run deeper into our fanbase than just me!

I have nowt personally against those involved in running the Club, I wasn't impressed with Lawn's demeanour towards a fan at his first fans forum and I understand he did himself no favours at another event since, but i can't knock his investment of monies to resolve our debt issues.

I can't see there being a welcoming embrace for supporter coordinated investment even if the Trust was in a position to do this immediately, it would seem the Club knows it can raise funds from the supporters with schemes like this. Perhaps I should just join the masses and happily chuck my money into a black hole, whilst whistling "City til I die"? ;)

[ernie06]

No I dont think Mark has been brainwashed by any reptiles - I think he has had his fingers burnt by things in and around the club - like many on here - and now see's things in a different light.

BTW - I hope one is whistling in tune ........

[Superfatbantam]

No I dont think Mark has been brainwashed by any reptiles - I think he has had his fingers burnt by things in and around the club - like many on here - and now see's things in a different light.

BTW - I hope one is whistling in tune ........

Well observed!

:wet:

roflmao:

You've got to laugh! I rather hoped Norm would have known me better though. I still have high hopes that in some years time we can take a long hard look at our Club and see it in a better light and feel part of it! I'll carry on doing what I do as much as I can, I have hopefully got past the challenges both the Club and our fans put in my way, and reconsidered my ideal vision - it still has a fans representative on the Board though! tup:

Up the mighty lizards!

[Parrot]

Why? Cos I have my concerns about the Club's well-being. I do not ever want to be in a position again where we are shocked or surprised at the state of our Club's finances.

I share your views about the Trust, but perhaps the cynicism, apathy, doubts and aspersions run deeper into our fanbase than just me!

I have nowt personally against those involved in running the Club, I wasn't impressed with Lawn's demeanour towards a fan at his first fans forum and I understand he did himself no favours at another event since, but i can't knock his investment of monies to resolve our debt issues.

I can't see there being a welcoming embrace for supporter coordinated investment even if the Trust was in a position to do this immediately, it would seem the Club knows it can raise funds from the supporters with schemes like this. Perhaps I should just join the masses and happily chuck my money into a black hole, whilst whistling "City til I die"? ;)

Why would supporters be better at running the club or it be any better if they were privy to all the financial ins and outs at the club?

We have two owning the club dont we?:rolleyes:

It hasn't stopped other clubs like Bournemouth(?) going into admin as it?

Running a football club successfully is all about being prudent and possessing good business acumen...doesn't matter if your a supporter or not IMO.

[Superfatbantam]

Why would supporters be better at running the club or it be any better if they were privy to all the financial ins and outs at the club?

We have two owning the club dont we?:rolleyes:

It hasn't stopped other clubs like Bournemouth(?) going into admin as it?

Running a football club successfully is all about being prudent and possessing good business acumen...doesn't matter if your a supporter or not IMO.


P, you roll the same old post out every time. Just to be clear I didn't say a fan run club would do better in my original post but hey what the hell! I don't know whether it would be better, it would make the Club more publicly accountable to the people I think are the most important, the fans. Yes we allegedly have 2 fans running the Club but they are also businessmen with a significant vested financial interest in the Club, what rules them, head or heart? Apparently Big Geoff was a fan. Nuff said.

Bournemouth are not owned by the fans nor do they have board representation.

Barcelona and Real Madrid are and elect their Boards. :rolleyes:

If anyone wants a good example of financial mismanagement, try privately owned Leeds – or heck, even Bradford under Richmond, but don’t try the old ‘you’ve failed’ accusation where trusts are concerned, as if there’s been one consistent failure then that’s the traditional private model.

Ahem: 21 clubs saved by the intervention of a supporters’ trust. None dead or financially crippled because of them.

Success stories: Brentford, Stockport, Notts County, Exeter – none of these would exist without their trusts. And 2 of those examples are above us in the division we find ourselves in!

[Jamaica Love]

Maybe they could start the ball rolling by putting in this season's money that mysteriously went AWOL.

Could not agree more..Where is the extra money we donated? What about that councillers 500 nicker?? What was the total and hopw was it spent? This kind of information would encourage me to deposit into a new fund, but wont be forthcoming...maybe this needs to be raised by the trust or at some kind of supporters forum!

Incidentally, i walk from maestros, down Valley Parade, thru players car park and round to gate N(?)7 of the kop. I didnt see any flyers being handed out or even on the floor?? Poor distribution if you ask me. I visit the bookies on matchday and the refreshment counters, they werent even on the counters there, or any that i noticed on the boards around the ground!

[Superfatbantam]

Could not agree more..Where is the extra money we donated? What about that councillers 500 nicker?? What was the total and hopw was it spent? This kind of information would encourage me to deposit into a new fund, but wont be forthcoming...maybe this needs to be raised by the trust or at some kind of supporters forum!

Incidentally, i walk from maestros, down Valley Parade, thru players car park and round to gate N(?)7 of the kop. I didnt see any flyers being handed out or even on the floor?? Poor distribution if you ask me. I visit the bookies on matchday and the refreshment counters, they werent even on the counters there, or any that i noticed on the boards around the ground!

Can ask, but they seem to take more notice of the OMB posters! jawdrop:

[king billy]

P, you roll the same old post out every time. Just to be clear I didn't say a fan run club would do better in my original post but hey what the hell! I don't know whether it would be better, it would make the Club more publicly accountable to the people I think are the most important, the fans. Yes we allegedly have 2 fans running the Club but they are also businessmen with a significant vested financial interest in the Club, what rules them, head or heart? Apparently Big Geoff was a fan. Nuff said.

Bournemouth are not owned by the fans nor do they have board representation.

Barcelona and Real Madrid are and elect their Boards. :rolleyes:

If anyone wants a good example of financial mismanagement, try privately owned Leeds – or heck, even Bradford under Richmond, but don’t try the old ‘you’ve failed’ accusation where trusts are concerned, as if there’s been one consistent failure then that’s the traditional private model.

Ahem: 21 clubs saved by the intervention of a supporters’ trust. None dead or financially crippled because of them.

Success stories: Brentford, Stockport, Notts County, Exeter – none of these would exist without their trusts. And 2 of those examples are above us in the division we find ourselves in!

As has been mentioned before though - you can't compare Real Madrid and Barcelona, that model is totally and utterley unworkable over here......

The clubs you've mentioned who've been saved are shite and will never get anywhere - they're totally uninvestable, if i were a businessman looking to invest i wouldn't go anywhere near any club with fan involvement - for involvement read interferance.....

How many of the top flight or even Championship clubs are supporter run?

[Superfatbantam]

As has been mentioned before though - you can't compare Real Madrid and Barcelona, that model is totally and utterley unworkable over here......

The clubs you've mentioned who've been saved are shite and will never get anywhere - they're totally uninvestable, if i were a businessman looking to invest i wouldn't go anywhere near any club with fan involvement - for involvement read interferance.....

How many of the top flight or even Championship clubs are supporter run?

And we're not shite? :confused:

If I were investing in a Club I'd have been a damned sight more tempted by Brentford, Stockport, Notts County and Exeter than I would the financial mess that bradford City have been for the last 7 years. I and obviously lots of others wouldn't have touched us with a barge pole.

You can't pull that argument out, KB, when we are actually in a worse position than brentford and stockport.

Interference? How? Are you going along the old Max line that a fan rep on the board would be useless cos he hasn't got any money or he'd be gossipping all the secrets down the pub on a friday. it hardly works like that where there is significant fan involvement.

I really hope it happens at a "successful" club in your lifetime, KB, cos I would love to say, there you go. Unfortunately the temptation of the promised land tends to attract high-risk speculating sugar daddies into the game and it remains a rich man's playground. Ask the question though, should the supporters trusts have bothered?

[NormanCorner]

Ern said
"I come on here almost every day to read the views - I havent been away from home this season and do not go to every home game - life away from Valley Parade at the moment is much better for the experience."

So you're no longer a die-hard then Ern?


SFB ...calm down mate, you choose to be cynical, I don't. You would rather fan representation on the board, I think there is. Ern thinks that £150 is still too much, whereas I'm delighted to be only paying £6-50 (potentially £3-25) a match.
I'm sorry if you took my question regarding the gentlemans night the wrong way (it was far from a "criticism") but it was you who infered that rather than donating to Stuarts war chest it would be better to support the YOOF system (no doubt under the Trust umbrella)

Call me a gullible fan if you like, that's the way I prefer to be.

[Superfatbantam]

Ern said
"I come on here almost every day to read the views - I havent been away from home this season and do not go to every home game - life away from Valley Parade at the moment is much better for the experience."

So you're no longer a die-hard then Ern?


SFB ...calm down mate, you choose to be cynical, I don't. You would rather fan representation on the board, I think there is. Ern thinks that £150 is still too much, whereas I'm delighted to be only paying £6-50 (potentially £3-25) a match.
I'm sorry if you took my question regarding the gentlemans night the wrong way (it was far from a "criticism") but it was you who infered that rather than donating to Stuarts war chest it would be better to support the YOOF system (no doubt under the Trust umbrella)

Call me a gullible fan if you like, that's the way I prefer to be.

Fair enough. * holds out hand to shake, turns round and mutters put your head back in the sand, thrups!* :D Norm, I respect you sir and there would be no debate if we didn't have differing opinions. Btw, yes under the Trust umbrella would be very nice thank you! ;)

KB, same principle, we've had this fooking argument at least 500 times a year for the last 4 years! Agree to disagree slightly even though we both have our Club's best interests at heart? :D

[Dr Wisey]

Let's face it, with a supporters trust that has not got any financial clout they will always be up against it, and have to resort to sitting like a good boy at the masters table - ready for any scraps or treats.

I truly wish a Barcelona type members club could become reality at VP - but Bradfordian apathy and misery will put paid to any bold scheme.

I remain a member of the Trust because i hope things will improve, as for the club well it's pretty much the same as countless others over the last 100 years - lurching from crisis to crisis - all in the pursuit of glory.

[king billy]

SFB - i don't doubt there's room for fan involvement within clubs, but not fan ownership, at least without money or clout (ala Barca and Real) - as a company director who personally signed quite a large cheque for an advertising hoarding to run for two seasons last summer i can promise you i wouldn't have done so had the club been run by a supporters trust, nothing to do with my own personal feelings on the subject, but as someone who wouldn't have wanted to throw money at something which had no prospects of ambition and potential!!
Clubs that are owned by the fans have no potential to ever do anything - because no-one will invest real money unless they can have a piece of what they're investing in - its a vicious circle, unless you have a few on the "trust" who have real cash ready to throw into the pot, the best you could ever hope for is to yoyo between the bottom two divisions, which is the best the clubs you've ever mentioned will ever achieve!!

Supporters trusts are nowt more than old fashioned socialists IMO - who are trying taking advantage of what is greedy and wrong in football to further their own political agenda......tup:

[Superfatbantam]

SFB - i don't doubt there's room for fan involvement within clubs, but not fan ownership, at least without money or clout (ala Barca and Real) - as a company director who personally signed quite a large cheque for an advertising hoarding to run for two seasons last summer i can promise you i wouldn't have done so had the club been run by a supporters trust, nothing to do with my own personal feelings on the subject, but as someone who wouldn't have wanted to throw money at something which had no prospects of ambition and potential!!
Clubs that are owned by the fans have no potential to ever do anything - because no-one will invest real money unless they can have a piece of what they're investing in - its a vicious circle, unless you have a few on the "trust" who have real cash ready to throw into the pot, the best you could ever hope for is to yoyo between the bottom two divisions, which is the best the clubs you've ever mentioned will ever achieve!!

Supporters trusts are nowt more than old fashioned socialists IMO - who are trying taking advantage of what is greedy and wrong in football to further their own political agenda......tup:

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Right on, brother! :D

[ernie06]

Norm - I'm no longer a die hard fan.

I come on here to see what some of my old mates & aquantences are chatting about ( what a sad fook I sound) and what their views are... In the past as some will know I would drop everything to get to a match, drive for seven hours and even arrange for Meetings in the respective areas so I could attend games.

NOW...well sometimes decorating that wall has more relevance than seeing city play.

No doubt when I am settled back into a normal life style and without my single pad to refurbish then city may well take a higher role - as it stands now - it is good quality time with my pop and I - but of little relevance in my life apart from that.

[NormanCorner]

I agree Ern...sometimes attending City is like watching paint dry ...did you watch your wall?

[Superfatbantam]

I agree Ern...sometimes attending City is like watching paint dry ...did you watch your wall?

I think the last 7 years or so have taken it out of a lot of us, the old blind faith and enthusiasm is hard to muster up when we have become so incredibly observant about our off-field business.

We'll be reet when we start getting closer to a promotion race, still possible this year maybe more likely next!

[NormanCorner]

I have flounced from a couple of home matches this season incurring the wrath from a couple of pals. They even went so far as to call me a part time coont.
I was hurt and upset, I brayed our lass later on that evening.

[Superfatbantam]

I have flounced from a couple of home matches this season incurring the wrath from a couple of pals. They even went so far as to call me a part time coont.
I was hurt and upset, I brayed our lass later on that evening.

roflmao:

Where were you when we were sheeite! :D

[Yeadon Bantam]

I have flounced from a couple of home matches this season incurring the wrath from a couple of pals. They even went so far as to call me a part time coont.
I was hurt and upset, I brayed our lass later on that evening.
Kicked the dog as well?

[NormanCorner]

Kicked the dog as well?


Why take it out on the poor dog?

[Yeadon Bantam]

Why take it out on the poor dog?
:D jawdrop:

Its always the dogs fault?:elvis:

[Dr Wisey]

I took our last home defeat out on my old Passat - thrashed it along Cliff Hollins Lane through to East Bierley - a real drivers route for any wannabe Rally drivers out there lol - the lad was impressed with my driving skill anyway!

[Superfatbantam]

I took our last home defeat out on my old Passat - thrashed it along Cliff Hollins Lane through to East Bierley - a real drivers route for any wannabe Rally drivers out there lol - the lad was impressed with my driving skill anyway!

Is that going from the Richardsons Arms up towards East bierley Golf Course?

If so done that a few times, a tad scary though if something's coming t'other way!jawdrop:

[Dr Wisey]

That's the one pal, and yep - avoid the tractors lol

[Yeadon Bantam]

The road between East morton and Guiseley is a decent fun route!

Mum does some sily things in the MG over there!

Damn i hate that thing, look like a gay when in that!

[Garlic Breath]

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[Yeadon Bantam]

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When i win the lottery!

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[ChuckleBantam]

When i win the lottery! And learn to drive!

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Corrected that one for you Aidy tup: