Rhodes Disgrace

[flying_bantam]

http://www.leedsunited.com/page/NewsroomDetail/0,,10273~1248203,00.html

Really, really p*ssed off after reading that "we" are giving support to that lot in their legal battle.

If City had been unable to come to a CVA do you think we'd have been allowed to kick off the next season with a deduction, or would the rules have been followed and seen us kicked out of the league?

I know which one I'd expect to have happened.

[silverbantam]

The publicity shy Mr Rhodes never speaks about City but instead he makes a statement supporting our biggest rivals - what an idiot !

[Glyn81]

This does not suprise me. Our Chairman were one of the few clubs to vote in favour of L666s getting the 15 point deduction back. If you look at the list of teams that voted for them to get the points back most of them were clubs that had gone into administration.

[Garlic Breath]

Oh dear Dave's gonna have a field day with this.:)

[Gary1975]

The publicity shy Mr Rhodes never speaks about City but instead he makes a statement supporting our biggest rivals - what an idiot !


They maybe OUR biggest rivals but most from bellend rd do not give two fucks about us :eek:
If you take our one sided rivalry away just maybe both clubs boards get on well :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[ChuckleBantam]

Oh dear Dave's gonna have a field day with this.:)

No need. I know what a clueless pisspot our fuckwit of a chairman is. Nothing the brainless cunt does surprises me in the slightest. This is just another in a long line of fuck ups that should convince folk he is not fit and proper to have anything to do with this once proud football club.

I just wonder what he's got lined up next??

[BantamLad89]

Oh great now we got like 8000 thick City fans angry because he's defending another club, whooo foooking cares!?

Corrr I hate City fans, over react to owt.

[Gary1975]

Corrr I hate City fans, over react to owt.


Some do ;)

[ChuckleBantam]

Corrr I hate City fans, .

Is that You Julian???

[Gary1975]

Originally Posted by BantamLad89 http://www.claretandbanter.co.uk/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.claretandbanter.co.uk/showthread.php?p=205162#post205162)
Corrr I hate City fans, .

Is that You Julian???




pmsl nice one Chucks

[BantamLad89]

Unhealthy obsessions Chuckle...

My obsession with the Jamaicans has only been a 3 year thing, you've despised JR ever since you layed eyes on him.

The picture on the dart board, the knife through the head picture on your fridge.

Unhealthy kid!

[ChuckleBantam]

Unhealthy obsessions Chuckle...

My obsession with the Jamaicans has only been a 3 year thing, you've despised JR ever since you layed eyes on him.

The picture on the dart board, the knife through the head picture on your fridge.

Unhealthy kid!

Both obsessed with personalities connected with Bradford City who contribute fuck all because they are useless. We have a lot in common eh?

[Gary1975]

Unhealthy obsessions Chuckle...

My obsession with the Jamaicans has only been a 3 year thing, you've despised JR ever since you layed eyes on him.

The picture on the dart board, the knife through the head picture on your fridge.

Unhealthy


Yes but his obsession is understandable to a point your is just plain daft :chatter::chatter:

[BantamLad89]

Both obsessed with personalities connected with Bradford City who contribute fuck all because they are useless. We have a lot in common eh?

Nope, major factor in skin colour.

[ChuckleBantam]

Yes but his obsession is understandable to a point

But who else is there Gaz???!!!!

[BantamLad89]

Unhealthy obsessions Chuckle...

My obsession with the Jamaicans has only been a 3 year thing, you've despised JR ever since you layed eyes on him.

The picture on the dart board, the knife through the head picture on your fridge.

Unhealthy


Yes but his obsession is understandable to a point your is just plain daft :chatter::chatter:

Im sorry, did I stumble across an arse licking competition here?

[Gary1975]

Nobody sadly :(


Just keep hoping Chucks

[ChuckleBantam]

Nope, major factor in skin colour.

Na Mon, It's because dey is shite!!

[Gary1975]

Arse licking competition me and Chucks i very much doubt it still it beats worshipping 2 shitty footballers jump:jump:jump:jump:

[BantamLad89]

Na Mon, It's becuase dey is shite!!

What you on about..

..

...JR rules!

[ChuckleBantam]

What you on about..

..

...JR rules!

I thought it was obvious. Rickets and Daley are both shite and it's players of their calibre that have us at the arse end of Division 4. Hardly Rocket Science is it?

[BantamLad89]

I thought it was obvious. Rickets and Daley are both shite and it's players of their calibre that have us at the arse end of Division 4. Hardly Rocket Science is it?

At least we got king JR:)

Not them 2 shit'eds. Dons gone at the end of the season, Halifax for him!

[Parrot]

I hate L**ds more than anyone but maybe JR wants to keep on amicable terms with the scum as we might need a few of their youth players like Ben Parker in the future?

On the other hand I was once told JR was a L**ds fan as a kid, maybe this explains a lot about his our position and his support for the white shites predicament? :rolleyes:

I think one of the above Is true, you'll have to decide which yoursens! ;)

[ChuckleBantam]

I hate L**ds more than anyone but maybe JR wants to keep on amicable terms with the scum as we might need a few of their youth players like Ben Parker in the future?

I was once told JR was a L**ds fan as a kid, maybe this explains a lot about his our position and his support for the white shites predicament? :rolleyes:

I think one of the above Is true, you'll have to deciede which yoursens! ;)

If we were in as a healthy a position as Mark Lawn makes out, why on earth would we rely on youth players from a team a mere one division higher? So why would that be a reason??

I prefer the one that says for a so called City Fan the fuckwit clearly doesn't know they tried to put City under in 1983 over a 10k debt we owed them for Trevor Cherry.

[tony d]

If we were in as a healthy a position as Mark Lawn makes out, why on earth would we rely on youth players from a team a mere one division higher? So why would that be a reason??

I prefer the one that says for a so called City Fan the fuckwit clearly doesn't know they tried to put City under in 1983 over a 10k debt we owed them for Trevor Cherry.

Maybe due to us over the years being a feeder club for their ageing players..

Of which we have had many who have served this club well..

So to keep that link is a good thing..

Plus everyone in footy knows Leeds were screwed over points wise..You do not have to like them to see that..

Dave's comments can be ignored on anything to do with JR as it is the same stuff redressed each time..

[Parrot]

I prefer the one that says for a so called City Fan the fuckwit clearly doesn't know they tried to put City under in 1983 over a 10k debt we owed them for Trevor Cherry.

I agree, they wouldn't get jack shit from me for the reason above!

Remember how much money poor L**ds have splashed out on players this season after coming out of admin.

Give them another 15 points reduction when their appeal fails jump:

[Dr Wisey]

admit you just want a big black cock up yer back passage and be done lad!

[park bantam]

Na Mon, It's because dey is shite!!You know Chuckle at one time you had a brain. But recently you do not use it.The directors have made many mistakes in the last few years but now they are on the right track. However i think JR is wrong regarding Leeds

[ChuckleBantam]

You know Chuckle at one time you had a brain.

but now they are on the right track.

And you clearly have no brain. At no point in Rhodes stewardship have City ever improved their previous season's league position. That's a decline in my eyes, but then again I don't walk around with them closed do I?

[flying_bantam]

Plus everyone in footy knows Leeds were screwed over points wise..You do not have to like them to see that..
In what way?

According to the FL's rules, they shouldn't have been allowed to play in the league, the 15 points is a compromise they were lucky to get, and one that more than likely wouldn't have been offered to a "smaller" club.

[Yeadon Bantam]

Ive signed me name on it

[Yeadon Bantam]

i am joking btw... i wrote that before seeing how pissed off people were

[Ed]

As much as I hate Leeds, It's not the club that should be punished.

Maybe the league should say "Ken, Leave Leeds and accept a life time ban from Football and we'll give you back your points".

I can see the reasonings behind why Julian's said - not the best of times to of said what he's said though. The creditors, haven't gained anything from Leeds getting an extra 15 points - Teams who hate Leeds have had a good old laugh at their expense but who's gained?

If the league had it's head screwed on properly it would give the points back and when Leeds then gain promotion force them to up there offer to creditors to 50p in the pound.

Julian is a life long City fan, so i'll go with Parrots theory of youth players :-)

[Superfatbantam]

As much as I hate Leeds, It's not the club that should be punished.

Maybe the league should say "Ken, Leave Leeds and accept a life time ban from Football and we'll give you back your points".

I can see the reasonings behind why Julian's said - not the best of times to of said what he's said though. The creditors, haven't gained anything from Leeds getting an extra 15 points - Teams who hate Leeds have had a good old laugh at their expense but who's gained?

If the league had it's head screwed on properly it would give the points back and when Leeds then gain promotion force them to up there offer to creditors to 50p in the pound.

Julian is a life long City fan, so i'll go with Parrots theory of youth players :-)


Well said. Even the most vociferous amongst us against Rhodes have said that those in glass houses should not throw stones. We should not criticise Leeds for their actions in challenging the points deductions but maybe a message of support is going too far. Why not keep it private if that is his personal opinion. It only serves to alienate our co-owner from his fellow fans even further than he has already done in 5+ years of poor business administration of the club. And on that I agree with Chucks, notwithstanding that I admire and respect JR for continuously trying to bail out the CLub, he has hardly succeeded in getting us anywhere near break-even or reversing our fortunes on the pitch. Only when a fellow investor decides to change things have we looked more stable off the field and now with a motivator like McCall we all have a little more hope that things on the pitch will improve, despite seeing little evidence of it so far.

Onwards and upwards! ;)

[Gary1975]

Hope it fails as there season is collapsing as well as there gates :)

[Herr Doktor]

As much as I hate Leeds, It's not the club that should be punished.

Maybe the league should say "Ken, Leave Leeds and accept a life time ban from Football and we'll give you back your points".

I can see the reasonings behind why Julian's said - not the best of times to of said what he's said though. The creditors, haven't gained anything from Leeds getting an extra 15 points - Teams who hate Leeds have had a good old laugh at their expense but who's gained?

If the league had it's head screwed on properly it would give the points back and when Leeds then gain promotion force them to up there offer to creditors to 50p in the pound.

Julian is a life long City fan, so i'll go with Parrots theory of youth players :-)


How can you lay the blame solely at Ken Bates' feet? As has been pointed out countless times on other threads, the chairman is not solely responsible for the bad financial management of a club. All the other board members are responsible as well.

I thought the they were given a 15 point deduction rather than 10 because they didn't follow league rules by not agreeing a CVA. Whether the league were right to do that I wouldn't like to say but surely there should be some punishment for not following the rules? A fine would hardly have been appropriate considering Bates was saying the club were skint.

[jonny2201]

bad mistake by rhodes but do you remember this http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/football-columnists/True-fan-Rhodes-keeps-Bantams.1671048.jp


rhodes in my eyes is a ledgend

[panther]

JR is and always will be a heroe for me.... tup: as was GR.... cue chuckes..... roflmao:

[Ed]

How can you lay the blame solely at Ken Bates' feet? As has been pointed out countless times on other threads, the chairman is not solely responsible for the bad financial management of a club. All the other board members are responsible as well.

I thought the they were given a 15 point deduction rather than 10 because they didn't follow league rules by not agreeing a CVA. Whether the league were right to do that I wouldn't like to say but surely there should be some punishment for not following the rules? A fine would hardly have been appropriate considering Bates was saying the club were skint.

I don't blame him for the mess that Leeds were in when he took over, But when he took over he said he could manage the debt and pay everyone in full. He then put them in admin, took them through admin and brought them out the other end in a very very suspious way.

[flying_bantam]

I thought the they were given a 15 point deduction rather than 10 because they didn't follow league rules by not agreeing a CVA. Whether the league were right to do that I wouldn't like to say but surely there should be some punishment for not following the rules? A fine would hardly have been appropriate considering Bates was saying the club were skint.
The 15 point deduction was nothing to do with the 10.

They got the 10 point deduction for going into admin, as per the rules, they were allowed to compete in the league this season with a 15 point deduction despite not having a CVA in place.

Every other club who have been in admin pre-season have been told they would not be allowed to start the season without a CVA, as per the leagues own rules.

Apart from MK Dons I wouldn't like to see any club go bust, but if the rules had been followed for Leeds (like every other club were made to) they wouldn't have been playing this season, or the major creditors (Bates and this dodgy holdings company which obviously he has nothing to do with, honest) would have agreed to a deal in time.

[Parrot]

The 15 point deduction was nothing to do with the 10.

They got the 10 point deduction for going into admin, as per the rules, they were allowed to compete in the league this season with a 15 point deduction despite not having a CVA in place.

Every other club who have been in admin pre-season have been told they would not be allowed to start the season without a CVA, as per the leagues own rules.

Apart from MK Dons I wouldn't like to see any club go bust, but if the rules had been followed for Leeds (like every other club were made to) they wouldn't have been playing this season, or the major creditors (Bates and this dodgy holdings company which obviously he has nothing to do with, honest) would have agreed to a deal in time.

Spot on there mate tup:

How much have the "debt ridden" club spent on transfers this season? :rolleyes:

[mrsjdtobe]

This thread is akin to what one might read on the OMB. :rolleyes:

[Parrot]

This thread is akin to what one might read on the OMB. :rolleyes:

Whose "Akin"? :rolleyes:

Sounds like a character from Star Wars...;)

[king billy]

Rhodes probably realised that sitting in a big greenhouse it wouldn't be wise to start throwing stones around!!.....

Take the blind hatred specs off and the 15 point deduction was grossly unfair and woulldn't have been applied to any other club - apart from maybe the exception of Cardiff or Millwall who are similarly despised....

Big deal about nowt!!

[Parrot]

Rhodes probably realised that sitting in a big greenhouse it wouldn't be wise to start throwing stones around!!.....

Take the blind hatred specs off and the 15 point deduction was grossly unfair and woulldn't have been applied to any other club - apart from maybe the exception of Cardiff or Millwall who are similarly despised....

Big deal about nowt!!

Most "small" clubs would have been kicked out of the league If they didn't have a CVA in place before the season kicked off.

Why are L**ds different?

[Superfatbantam]

Most "small" clubs would have been kicked out of the league If they didn't have a CVA in place before the season kicked off.

Why are L**ds different?

The League wouldn't kick anyone out, they ummed and arred over us and still didn't get anywhere near threatening us with eviction. It would mess up their whole programme.

[Gary1975]

Saturday i was in a good mood but .............................Today is Monday let em go swivel conning bastards :) must be the only club to go into admin that can still fork a small fortune on players.Still another few seasons at LG1 LEVEL should stop all that :)

[tony d]

Saturday i was in a good mood but .............................Today is Monday let em go swivel conning bastards :) must be the only club to go into admin that can still fork a small fortune on players.Still another few seasons at LG1 LEVEL should stop all that :)

Not really Leicester got a free brand new ground out of it and brought in a whole new team the other side of Admin..

Leicester showed everything that was wrong with the admin route...Well done to them but they were miles better at screwing their investors etc over..

At Least Leeds gave 11p in the pound whereas most just throw 1p a pound in...

[Gary1975]

Not really Leicester got a free brand new ground out of it and brought in a whole new team the other side of Admin..


Did leicester not have the ground before admin ??




I see what you mean now :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: building the ground and not paying the full amount for it

[blinkybantam]

The publicity shy Mr Rhodes never speaks about City but instead he makes a statement supporting our biggest rivals - what an idiot !



Biggest rivals???

[Yeadon Bantam]

People we hate i think he means blinky

[Jamaica Love]

Ken seems happy about it anyway. And as is illustrated above by other posters, tonight when we are all sat in our 25,000 seater greenhouse we should ponder on why some of the above posters have been massively hypocritical!!:-

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportlatest/display.var.2074354.0.city_backing_united_over_unf air_points_deduction.php

Well done JR........ any one with half an ounce of awareness can see Leeds were completely shafted! In a few months when a few other clubs have gone under and a similar deal is done to help a club survive, we will see if they all get -15:-

[ChuckleBantam]

In a few months when a few other clubs have gone under and a similar deal is done to help a club survive, we will see if they all get -15:-

Or they could do what they Did to Boston. Relegate em another division instantly.

[Ed]

Wasn't it the football conference and not the F.A that chucked them down a few more levels?

[ChuckleBantam]

Wasn't it the football conference and not the F.A that chucked them down a few more levels?

Dunno, but whoever it was quashes the bollocks that is the opinion that L***s were hard done by when they actually got off lightly.

[flying_bantam]

I'm waiting for someone to justify this oft repeated "they were hard done to" line.

In what way? Some folk don't seem to grasp that they were not deducted 15 points for being in administration.
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[Yeadon Bantam]

I'm waiting for someone to justify this oft repeated "they were hard done to" line.

In what way? Some folk don't seem to grasp that they were not deducted 15 points for being in administration.
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They were deducted -15 for the corrupt old santa clause in charge!:flame: