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beerbantam
10-15-2007, 04:53 PM
Adam Pearson has moved away from the Tb's saga and is determined to get a new club!
We surely fit the profile and would be his cheapest option!!:rolleyes:
London Bantam
10-15-2007, 04:54 PM
Adam Pearson has moved away from the Tb's saga and is determined to get a new club!
We surely fit the profile and would be his cheapest option!!:rolleyes:
We're not a new club though! roflmao:roflmao:roflmao:roflmao:
Parrot
10-15-2007, 04:58 PM
JRs probably already told him to "do one" :rolleyes:
Maybe he'll go back with the begging bowl when things go tits up later? :rolleyes:
London Bantam
10-15-2007, 05:01 PM
JRs probably already told him to "do one" :rolleyes:
Maybe he'll go back with the begging bowl when things go tits up later? :rolleyes:
....is that the 'ChuckleBait' Parrot? Please don't get him started, I might slash my wrists:jimmy:
Dr Wisey
10-15-2007, 05:09 PM
Has he got any more money than the current dynamic duo? we need the ground back in the clubs hands to really progress - the rent at this level is crippling.
He is going for derby now :(:(:(:(:(:(:(
Tarty
10-16-2007, 10:57 AM
Apparently he is having yet another look at Sheffield Wednesday
Poulton
10-16-2007, 11:11 AM
Why would anyone without a passion for this club want to invest in us? Bradford City is not only a graveyard for strikers, but practically everyone involved with the club. There must be a day when Bradford City are not related to shit in common conversation.
"who do you support then?"
"Bradford"
This is usually replied by a laugh or some kind of insult to the club, not only from other supporters, I'v also heard it from City supporters aswell!
beerbantam
10-16-2007, 11:14 AM
Why would anyone without a passion for this club want to invest in us? Bradford City is not only a graveyard for strikers, but practically everyone involved with the club. There must be a day when Bradford City are not related to shit in common conversation.
"who do you support then?"
"Bradford"
This is usually replied by a laugh or some kind of insult to the club, not only from other supporters, I'v also heard it from City supporters aswell!
SAME COULD HAVE BEEN SAID ABOUT A WHOLE HOST OF CLUBS BEFORE (caps off) Wigan, Portsmouth even Donny are moving forward with money!:cool:
SAME COULD HAVE BEEN SAID ABOUT A WHOLE HOST OF CLUBS BEFORE (caps off) Wigan, Portsmouth even Donny are moving forward with money!:cool:
Fulham are up until recently a great example of the most unfortunate side to be taken to watch as a kid in London and be stuck with supporting the rest of your life surrounded by Spurs, Arsenal and West Ham fans, a little bit of money though....
I have heard people say, who will invest in us, because the city is such a mess, well thats true, the city is a mess, but what about Portsmouth, or pretty much any part of Birmingham? Liverpool? Wigan? Bolton? Blackburn is an appalling place, and not that it necessarily means anything but Blackburn, not Bradford, has the highest proportion of Asian inhabitants in the UK, Burnley? FFS, not nice.
I think the one main reason we are of no interest, and will continue to be of no interest until some kind of agreement is reached, is because we do not own our own ground, and that in todays climate is a big problem. Because it limits potential in an investors eyes. And I think, rightly or wrongly, the first thing a lot of people wanting to develop the club would want to look at is selling the ground and using the capitol to move out into the Aire Valley, give the club a fresh impetus and a different feel. At the minute anyone investing is just buying the name and effectively tying themsleves down with little room to manoeuvre.
Dr Wisey
10-16-2007, 12:59 PM
And how would a new ground be financed????
Is it not better to get the ground back in the club's hands and stay put - with all the investment coming into the City and district there is bound tobe a positive spin off.
We have a 25,000 all seater with a lot of facilities other clubs envy - if it aint broken leave it alone.
And how would a new ground be financed????
Is it not better to get the ground back in the club's hands and stay put - with all the investment coming into the City and district there is bound tobe a positive spin off.
We have a 25,000 all seater with a lot of facilities other clubs envy - if it aint broken leave it alone.
I don't think you have read what I wrote, I said that any new investor will be put off because they cannot sell the ground in order to buy a new one.
Yes we have a 25,000 seater ground, with the prospect of it being half full in any other division than the Premiership, unless we are going to offer cut price season tickets for every season we spend outside it.
And great facilities? Erm, a few banqueting rooms and bars? Great.
Personally I am happy for us to stay, but we are talking about what would attract an investor, and tbh a ground in probably one of the more intimidating and run down areas of Bradford is not an attraction for anyone whose sole interest in the club will be to make money.
The reality for football clubs now is stadiums which incorporate other businesses or are located near other attractions - cinemas, bowling alleys, a purpose built shopping centre. That offer decent parking and a a nice family experience in order to offer a good brand and attract outside investment. Walking home through Manningham after a night game may not be the experience a new investor would like to try and make money from.
I am trying to see the club through the eyes of a private investor who wants to take it and make money and not a fans view. I am sure a 16,000+ purpose built stadium in the Aire Valley, with a private gym facility, swimming pool, nandos franchise, carvery, bowling alley, wetherspoons, huge car park etc etc set in some nice Yorkshire dales countryside would make a lot more money and franchise interest/investment than the terraced Islamic state of Manningham does.
I do not personally wish to leave VP but I want the club to do well, and if this is the way of football (even Liverpool are leaving Anfield) then I would rather see us go with the flow than go under and as much money now is made from what a stadium can offer on its outside as it is from ticket sales etc.
Blackpool800
10-16-2007, 01:54 PM
Who would finance this?
Part of the problem with the ground is the Gibb was well and truelly ripped off for it. Wasn't it £6.5m he bought it for, which without football is not financially viable. The key is getting Gibb back on board and sending Julian back to his daddy.
It is true that people look for too many excuses when people talk about no one being interested in City, certainly if Rhodes stand off approach in not allowing Lawn access to the club accounts last season is anything to go by.
Dr Wisey i am still awaiting this much heralded investment in the area, have been waiting for 4 years thinking we would see big changes to the area but nowt has happend (save some dmolition work) and am moving somewhere else as i am sick of the council and its pamphlet of propaganda T&A spouting all these great things that years down the line are no closer to coming to fruition. The current T&A feature made me piss my pants "great things about Bradford". That would be the architecture built a couple of hundred years ago and.............what a big sand pit.
captain grumpy
10-16-2007, 08:49 PM
There was an article about Gibb in the Yorkshire Post a couple of months back.He said he didn't enjoy his time at City because of the constant battle against debt at that time.However he felt that he would like to get into football again and that he hoped he would make a much better job of it next time. He now lives in Scotland so wether he would be interested in City again I just don't know.However his pension fund does own the ground so who knows,maybe one day.
Dr Wisey
10-17-2007, 01:15 AM
I thought Gibb paid something like £2.5m for the ground?
BD12 - I know what you are saying about the out of town stadiums, but in reality these sites are becoming very hard to find, housing is coming at the top of the agenda now.
The Investment coming into the district is real and happening now - yeah we all know about the delays on the shopping centre - but Manningham itself has changed a hell of a lot over the last 15 years.
Clubs should not be so keen to abandon their roots, the grass aint always greener on the other side - we're stuck with the lease now anyway for years - so a buy back has to be the next step when finances are available.
beerbantam
10-17-2007, 09:19 AM
I thought Gibb paid something like £2.5m for the ground?
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I thought that too - it was no where near £6.5m in my memory.
Parrot
10-17-2007, 12:41 PM
The Investment coming into the district is real and happening now - yeah we all know about the delays on the shopping centre - but Manningham itself has changed a hell of a lot over the last 15 years.
So did Hiroshima when the yanks dropped a A-bomb on the place :rolleyes:
ernie06
10-17-2007, 01:27 PM
why would you buy a club that has a ceiling of only 15K supporters - where is the development value in that....
We sell less than 15K Season Tickets at give away prices - who would invest in that?
( i am not decrying the Season ticket sales btw )
ask yourself what our biggest crowd was and why????
why would you buy a club that has a ceiling of only 15K supporters - where is the development value in that....
We sell less than 15K Season Tickets at give away prices - who would invest in that?
( i am not decrying the Season ticket sales btw )
ask yourself what our biggest crowd was and why????
If we had been in prem they would have sold out at that price and even at £200 and you know that ernie,we have that potential but sadly we were exploited by richmond for that and now were suffering
Parrot
10-17-2007, 06:03 PM
why would you buy a FOURTH DIVISION club that has a ceiling of only 15K supporters - where is the development value in that....
We sell less than 15K Season Tickets at give away prices - who would invest in that?
( i am not decrying the Season ticket sales btw )
ask yourself what our biggest crowd was and why????
Ask yourself how many clubs below the Championship and indeed a good few in that division could sell 13k cut price s/t, especially after the last 6/7 years we've endured?
I bet they wouldn't be more than 10/15!
Anyone gets this club back in the Prem and makes us comfortable mid table side would be gauranteed 15 games a season with at least 18/20k and probably 15k plus FULL price s/t IMOjump:
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