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baldbantam
11-22-2006, 11:21 PM
This is interesting:
http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=4878&ArticleID=1835695
It confirms that Todd is contracted until May 31, 2009.
"Colin took it on a week-to-week basis and it was only after we came out of administration that we were able to award him a long-term contract.
"I deliberately made it a long one (until May 31, 2009) because what this club needed was stability.
And that is what he has given us."
Also, that our wage budget is about middle of the road for this division, both last year and this:
"I was making noises about going for promotion and yet, in reality, our wage bill was distinctly mid-table in terms of the division. Which is, funnily enough, where we finished."
City's wage bill of a little under £1.5m for the current season is dwarfed by clubs such as Doncaster Rovers and Bristol City with Rhodes estimating it is again "about mid-table in terms of League One".
And pretty much confirming that Rhodes will stick with Todd come hell or high water:
Rhodes said: "Colin came in for a lot of stick and I really felt for him. It got so bad at one stage that his wife stopped coming to games. No one wants to hear things like that being said about your partner.
"But I was resolute throughout in insisting there would be no change. There was a really low period around February or March when we seemed to be getting dragged into the relegation fight, but I always felt Colin was the right man for us.
"We were only a few points above the bottom four and had more or less the worst home record in the division. But we also had the fourth best away record and I remember thinking 'the hardest thing in football is to win away from home, so we must be doing something right and I know Colin will sort out our home form'.
"I kept my nerve, so did Colin and by the end of the season we were on a decent run and, more importantly, winning at home.
Ok, that bit is talking about the slump at the start of the year, but I see no reason why JR's attitude would change.
Parrot
11-22-2006, 11:27 PM
Fcuking hell:mad: ....just feel like someones told me Father Xmas isnt real!:(
JR + CT = the death of BCFC....RIPtdwn: tdwn:
That cheered me up no end Baldy.
Kop Kred
11-23-2006, 08:21 AM
Wasn't it written off the back of our good start to the season?...
...in football, like politics, a week is a long time and we've had weeks of shite football and terrible results...
...I'm just waiting for the vote of confidence next weektup: tup: tup:
Mallorcabantam
11-23-2006, 08:46 AM
"...I'm just waiting for the vote of confidence next week"
Ive been watching for this too
ernie06
11-23-2006, 09:34 AM
Houston - we have a problem.
Yeadon Bantam
11-23-2006, 09:36 AM
Im really considering binning my city stuff and forgetting the whole thing! Im young enough to move on!
No ambition at all what's the fucking point! JR says he is happy with mid table? Fuck it why should i pay lots of money when we are aiming for mid table??
DutchBantam
11-23-2006, 10:35 AM
2009.
Please tell me this is a joke. TURD OUT.
2009.
Please tell me this is a joke. TURD OUT.
2009.
Please tell me this is a joke. TURD OUT.
2009.
Please tell me this is a joke. TURD OUT.
2009.
Please tell me this is a joke. TURD OUT.
2009.
Please tell me this is a joke. TURD OUT.
2009.
Please tell me this is a joke. TURD OUT.
2009.
Please tell me this is a joke. TURD OUT.
That's his right as a chairman, to want us to be mid table. If he doesn't currently have the resources for us to fight above our weight fair play to him. I'd rather we were around mid-table flirting with the playoffs than whacking out a massive wage bill we can't afford and start heading back down the meltdown road.
Those who aren't should look at there own bank accounts and consider buying Rhodes out :D
Now all those who said we had one of the largest wage bills please stand up and say you were all wrong :) I stated last season our budget was pants and no-where near the size people on here kept saying and was belittled for it - maybe I could have an apology too :D
All those who said Todd was on a rolling contract, when I've been persistant in saying it wasn't rolling - please admit you were wrong too :) Think even Chuckle was right about Todd's contract.
I wonder what our wage bill is compared to the teams which find themselves above us in the form of Yeovil, Scunthorpe, Crewe, etc
I wonder what our wage bill is compared to the teams which find themselves above us in the form of Yeovil, Scunthorpe, Crewe, etc
Look at Scunthorpes £300,000 loss this year and work it out for yourself :)
We have steam rolled Crewe twice this season and theres only 4 points between us, They are known for small wage budgets.
We have steam rolled Crewe twice this season and theres only 4 points between us, They are known for small wage budgets.
That counts for nothing, Huddersfield beat City twice when City were promoted. Crewe are above us in the league and that is more important than one off victories.
Personally I'm not happy seeing players not giving a toss because they know their manager will end up in the paper making excuses.
Superfatbantam
11-23-2006, 10:53 AM
He's doing exactly what was needed after the administration, stabilising. In order to do that and get your house in order then you get mid-table safety first and foremost. Relegation has to be avoided obviously and tbh you don't want a flirtation with promotion too early because that then raises the bar and expectations go through tyhe roof, increasing the pressure to find funds that aren't there.
Sensible comments from the Chairman.
Jantje
11-23-2006, 10:57 AM
He's doing exactly what was needed after the administration, stabilising. In order to do that and get your house in order then you get mid-table safety first and foremost. Relegation has to be avoided obviously and tbh you don't want a flirtation with promotion too early because that then raises the bar and expectations go through tyhe roof, increasing the pressure to find funds that aren't there.
Sensible comments from the Chairman.
Thats fair enough SFB, but at the start of the season the Chairman said play-offs were a minimum requirement, thereby raising everyones expectations or was he, as Chuckle would say, cynically using fans hopes to sell season tickets?
baldbantam
11-23-2006, 11:01 AM
That was purely to sell tickets.
The minimum requirement was avoiding relegation, in my opinion. And given the above, probably not even that.
Whether people like it or not, get used to the idea that Todd is with us for the foreseeable future. He has two and a half years left on his contract, which means that it will be at least 18 months before it could be considered anywhere near economically viable to pay him off, even if we slip a division.
Aim low, aim so low that even if you succeed no one will notice.
Do a search for wage bills on Google :)
All those teams who have gone up from this division have had wage bills of £2 million + ... even Crewe's wage bill is bigger than ours.
Sheff Wednesday did it on £2 million and they had a pants squad, there championship budget isn't much bigger.
Superfatbantam
11-23-2006, 11:19 AM
Thats fair enough SFB, but at the start of the season the Chairman said play-offs were a minimum requirement, thereby raising everyones expectations or was he, as Chuckle would say, cynically using fans hopes to sell season tickets?
I wouldn't say "cynically" using fans. I'd say smart business sense. What would you rather? He comes out and says we have no chance this year, we're on a shoestring budget, I have no confidence in the manager and we'll be lucky to avoid relegation. That would attract the customers and investors wouldn't it! Every Chairman at the beginning of the season would say they are looking for top 6 give or take one or two who would look for consolidation usually after a promotion, a la Watford, Sheff Utd and when we went up to the first and then the Prem us.
I doubt he used the words "minimum requirement", I think they will have been his target, that doesn't mean minimum requirement.
Yeadon Bantam
11-23-2006, 11:24 AM
I know for a fact after reading this i don't actually want to go anymore, saturday maybe my last game
Superfatbantam
11-23-2006, 11:26 AM
You just jump ship, dude, go follow Guiseley, as you say you're young enough. Me reckons you'll miss it. It's in the blood, you see, and only way you'll dump this girlfriend is if it's bled out of you (a la Chuckle) or it dies.
Yeadon Bantam
11-23-2006, 11:28 AM
Its dying, VERY FUCKING QUICKLY!!
I haven't seen city since the blackpool debacle and i don't care TBH
Jantje
11-23-2006, 11:31 AM
I doubt he used the words "minimum requirement", I think they will have been his target, that doesn't mean minimum requirement.
Ok, i was looking for the quote but it was along those lines, maybe 'cynically' was a bit harsh as well but you get the idea
Superfatbantam
11-23-2006, 11:32 AM
No mate, if it's dying it's a slow death. It's been limping around like a wounded animal since the first administration. Still, some injured animals recover and I'm sticking with this one.
panther
11-23-2006, 01:26 PM
Oh and there is me thinking this was the long awaited "vote of confidence" anyone think CT will do the honourable thing then and walk ?
Nah me neither - I spotted something in the T & A last night which made me worry and that was a paragraph saying:
Colin Todd had cleared the air in the dressing room !
anyone else see it ?
I spotted something in the T & A last night which made me worry and that was a paragraph saying:
Colin Todd had cleared the air in the dressing room !
anyone else see it ?
I think he was talking about the new extractor fan they have had installed.
Dr Wisey
11-23-2006, 08:02 PM
the club needs new investors and management to progress - from where ......
who can tell...........We'll still go but it does wane the enthusiasm for away matches.
Feck tis worse than the doldrums of the early 1990's................................
(slumped swivel)
oops wrong messageboard !
Still we can let out some wrath and anger at VP - the shite old days are coming back - 4,000 crowds mmmmmmmmmmmm
jimmy
11-23-2006, 09:11 PM
fucking Resign Colin Todd You Useless Bastard
Yeadon Bantam
11-23-2006, 09:16 PM
And do it before you lose some hardcores like myself!!
It seems the Rhodes master plan is to see Todd out of his contract (Todd will probably retire at the end of it) while grooming windass and wethers to take over.
15 MORE YEARS OF THIS!!:eek:
DutchBantam
11-24-2006, 07:14 AM
fucking Resign Colin Todd You Useless Bastard
Exactly. Shame he never visits this forum.
Kop Kred
11-24-2006, 08:11 AM
Oh and there is me thinking this was the long awaited "vote of confidence" anyone think CT will do the honourable thing then and walk ?
Nah me neither - I spotted something in the T & A last night which made me worry and that was a paragraph saying:
Colin Todd had cleared the air in the dressing room !
anyone else see it ?
My interpretation of a vote of confidence follows a bad run... that article, I think, followed our good start so it was just Julie saying... "look!.. see!... I told you I was right to guarantee Todd 5 years of money for nothing (and chicks for free)"....
We are in dire straits.
ernie06
11-24-2006, 09:16 AM
at least that made me...... smile KK
Jantje
11-24-2006, 09:22 AM
My interpretation of a vote of confidence follows a bad run... that article, I think, followed our good start so it was just Julie saying... "look!.. see!... I told you I was right to guarantee Todd 5 years of money for nothing (and chicks for free)"....
We are in dire straits.
Good stuff KK, it went straight over my head at first....too early in the day!!tup:
This is only a rumour .... and I state it clearly that it's a rumour.
Rhodes had Todd in the office this morning and told him he has 3 games to save his job, Rhodes is also disappointed about the fact fans haven't been down in there droves to buy tickets for tomorrow's game.
The person this came from is quiet close to the club but still i'd say it's only a rumour.
Mallorcabantam
11-24-2006, 03:27 PM
This is only a rumour .... and I state it clearly that it's a rumour.
Rhodes had Todd in the office this morning and told him he has 3 games to save his job, Rhodes is also disappointed about the fact fans haven't been down in there droves to buy tickets for tomorrow's game.
The person this came from is quiet close to the club but still i'd say it's only a rumour.
One rumor is as good as any other to a City fan these days
Again is it the players or is it Todd? -- is it Todd or the players?
3 years runing -- the only common factor is Sweeny
baldbantam
11-24-2006, 03:35 PM
Again is it the players or is it Todd? -- is it Todd or the players?
3 years runing -- the only common factor is Sweeny
Far more common factors than Todd - the board for a start.
And how many of the team have been here for at least 3 years?
Mallorcabantam
11-24-2006, 03:43 PM
Do the board get involved on the field? -- the new players that come in every year should have a good attitude, as yet untinted -- and if CTs lost the dressing room (every year) why dont many players want away, yet the older playrs sign up for more! -- maybe there is a clique down there :D
Parrot
11-24-2006, 03:56 PM
Far more common factors than Todd - the board for a start.
And how many of the team have been here for at least 3 years?
Bower, Wetherall & Windass....probably the three most consistent players in the squad;) ....your insane if your implying this team isn't Turds, he's had 3 years to build & early season form as shown the standard of football they are capable of....The talent & application is there, all thats needed is a manager who can motivate his team for 9 months of a season instead of 3 IMOtup:
coley
11-24-2006, 04:18 PM
I reckon if we lose tmoro and show another inept performance, julian will have put his hand down his trousers and finally found his balls and sack the useless twattup:
baldbantam
11-24-2006, 04:19 PM
I wasn't implying anything either way - just pointing out that Todd isn't the only common factor.
BantamLad89
11-24-2006, 11:55 PM
Im really considering binning my city stuff and forgetting the whole thing! Im young enough to move on!
No ambition at all what's the f*****g point! JR says he is happy with mid table? F**k it why should i pay lots of money when we are aiming for mid table??
Oh put a sock in it women! He mentioned the the wage budget was a midtables side, doesn't really meen he's not wanting promotion. He said he wanted playoffs at the start of the season.
Stop acting like a women who's just fell out with her BF. Do you even spend any money on City anymore? Don't see you at away games, and only seen you twice at home games, with Craig and Sarah.
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Parrot
11-24-2006, 11:58 PM
Oh put a sock in it women! He mentioned the the wage budget was a midtables side, doesn't really meen he's not wanting promotion. He said he wanted playoffs at the start of the season.
Stop acting like a women who's just fell out with her BF. Do you even spend any money on City anymore? Don't see you at away games, and only seen you twice at home games, with Craig and Sarah.
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You tell him bitchtup: :D
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