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B_i_N
11-02-2006, 09:16 PM
Personally I think it's a great idea especially for English football. I bet Wenger at Arsenal isn't happy about it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/6111804.stm


Fifa proposes limit on foreigners
Fifa will propose a limit on the number of foreigners who can play for a club and are also set to give players an official voice in decision-making.

World football's governing body has joined forces with international players' association FifPro in order to tackle the problems facing the sport.

Their proposal is the implementation of a six plus five system, whereby six members of a side must be homegrown.

The two bodies will also look at racism corruption, betting and doping issues.

Fifa president Sepp Blatter described the signing of the agreement between the two organisations as a "historic day" for football.
At the moment, clubs are not so interested in forming players because they know that later on, they may leave
Fifa president Sepp Blatter

Blatter, flanked by FifPro president Philippe Piat and Barcelona stars Samuel Eto'o and Lilian Thuram, said: "The players form an important part of our footballing family and must be part of the decision-making at international level."

On the proposal to put limits on the number of foreign players, Blatter added that it would "protect the national teams".

"At the moment, clubs are not so interested in forming players because they know that later on, they may leave," he stated.

"We do not want to put an end to transfers but hope to bring back the local or regional base that existed previously."

lee
11-02-2006, 10:06 PM
I agree with it in principle but I can see it harming the national side a lot in future as the top English players work with less and less top internationals. I guess we'll have to wait and see, would be ironic in a few years if this goes through that we might be calling for more foreigners in the English game.

B_i_N
11-02-2006, 10:20 PM
I agree with it in principle but I can see it harming the national side a lot in future as the top English players work with less and less top internationals. I guess we'll have to wait and see, would be ironic in a few years if this goes through that we might be calling for more foreigners in the English game.

Well if there have to be at least 6 home grown players in a side that would give them plenty of experience playing with foreigners. What's happening now is that a lot of English players are finding it difficult getting onto the books of a Premiership side. The big teams like Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd et al. are scouting the world for junior talent. These new rules would help more English players get into the top club teams and experience the big time and come through the big clubs youth systems.

lee
11-02-2006, 10:24 PM
I agree that it would help the young players no end, what I'm saying is that it won't help the top end of English players, because they'll be playing with players who previously couldn't get into the team because there was a better foreign player already there.

Football in England will benefit as a whole, don't get me wrong, however a couple of times in a row we don't qualify for a major tournament because of the dumbing down of our top players and there could be hell to pay.

Parrot
11-02-2006, 10:40 PM
How many foreigners played top flight league football in "66"? :rolleyes:

I think we should limit the amount of foreigners in a team to 3/4, we'd still be able to bring in the cream of world football talent & at the same time give English players the chance to mature & progress naturallytup:

They are too many average foreigners in the premier league halting the progress of young & up & coming players from the lower leagues IMO:mad:

Same could be said about the managers aswell!

lee
11-02-2006, 10:50 PM
If the young kids were better than the foreigners then surely they'd be getting in the starting 11 instead of them though? Don't give us 'they're holding the kids back' bollocks, please...

Parrot
11-02-2006, 11:08 PM
If the young kids were better than the foreigners then surely they'd be getting in the starting 11 instead of them though? Don't give us 'they're holding the kids back' bollocks, please...

We'll never know if the kids were good enough if there's someone in their way, will we?...Im not talking about the great players like Bergkamp, Zola, Cantona ect... Im on about the average journey men players, usually from places like Scandanavia ect... If the young players were thrown in then maybe they'd grow quickly into better players?....rather than clubs opting for the quick fix "johnny foreigner" option?

lee
11-02-2006, 11:19 PM
It's managers jobs to win matches, and presumably to win matches they select their best players. If those best players are foreign, what can managers do differently? Start picking the youngsters and losing games?

I'm pretty sure that if the youngsters were of good enough quality they would be thrown in and they would be continually selected in front of the foreigners.

Teams invest thousands, nay millions into academies these days as well so it's not like these kids are getting brought up through the ranks as an afterthought with whatever money is left after paying the first teams wages.

Anyway you're missing my point I think. I have no problem with youg English players getting a shot at the Prem, etc. Like I say, I just think without experienced internationals around, even if they aren't top internationals, the standard of the top English players could deteriorate.

A couple of tournaments which England don't qualify for and the public could start to want to bring foreigners back in, in which case this will be a wasted exercise, or it could go the other way and interest in English football could drop right down, which wouldn't do anyone any favours.

Kop Kred
11-03-2006, 08:03 AM
How many foreigners played top flight league football in "66"? :rolleyes:

I think we should limit the amount of foreigners in a team to 3/4, we'd still be able to bring in the cream of world football talent & at the same time give English players the chance to mature & progress naturallytup:

They are too many average foreigners in the premier league halting the progress of young & up & coming players from the lower leagues IMO:mad:

Same could be said about the managers aswell!


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youngbill
11-04-2006, 11:13 AM
I haven't seen this reported over here yet so I find it interesting. It's something that I have long advocated but as I recall, isn't there something to do with a players right to earn a living, Euro agreement or something.someone will know- but I believe that the large numbers of overseas players in UK, must restrict the chances of our youngsters trying to get a break, which in turn holds back the National team. A cap on overseas players overall will be a good thing for England eventually. Sure, as someone pointed out, there will be a few stars you can only see in internationals.Cheers.

tony d
11-04-2006, 11:29 AM
How many foreigners played top flight league football in "66"? :rolleyes:
!


What was the standard of football in 66????

Football will go backwards under this ruling as it was when it was previously limited...

Everyone knows and can see the standards of football in this country at all levels has improved a million fold due to the none limitation of foreigners been allowed in...

You only have to look at the quality in depth we have coming from the bigger clubs and the lower leagues ...

I'm totally against it...

Football is a game and also a business ....Limiting the staff you can employ and the freedomn of movement is just big brother gone mad in the world we live in...

I'm sure this will be fought in the courts and rightly so

wykie
11-04-2006, 11:34 AM
I haven't seen this reported over here yet so I find it interesting. It's something that I have long advocated but as I recall, isn't there something to do with a players right to earn a living, Euro agreement or something.someone will know- but I believe that the large numbers of overseas players in UK, must restrict the chances of our youngsters trying to get a break, which in turn holds back the National team. A cap on overseas players overall will be a good thing for England eventually. Sure, as someone pointed out, there will be a few stars you can only see in internationals.Cheers.

It will not happen in Europe as it is a restriction of trade, that is all Europeans have the right to work anywhere in Europe without restrictions. Might stop the Africans etc but they all seem to be French nowadays:D

FKAM
11-05-2006, 05:59 PM
Whether for good or for bad, I can't help thinking that the only reason it's happening right now is that Blatter's got it in so much for English football. I hate that little b*****d and the sooner he drops off the face of the earth the better.